take 2 - A Three Sounds Box?

[tranemonk]

okay I'm being redundant but at the moment I'm feeling very Three Sounds-ish...

I just put on "Live at the It Club" and was wondering if we had discussed the need for a Three Sounds box... and Lo and Behold... WHAM!!!

I was just looking at the discography over at AMG... and it appears that not all of their stuff had been released on CD....

Is it time for a lobbying campaign???

And what would be in it???

[Dan Gould]

OK, here's the deal, in a nutshell:

Michael Cuscuna has gone back and forth on a Three Sounds Mosaic set. He's expressed an interest in doing one but has also found stumbling blocks, like the fact that their albums have a certain "interchangeability" and lack of variety. He's considered many different possibilities, and the very latest is that it is likely that he will try to issue the Three Sounds LPs that were recorded from 1958 to '62 for Blue Note (they're "classic" period) on a series of three Mosaic Selects. That was the gist of what he told me, the remaining question would be when this might happen.

[Brad]

I've also discussed this with Michael (both in person and email) many times. Dan is essentially correct. However, I'm not very hopeful that this will ever come out.

[Dan Gould]

I've also discussed this with Michael (both in person and email) many times. Dan is essentially correct. However, I'm not very hopeful that this will ever come out.

Brad, you missed my last message from Michael, which I relayed in another thread. He made it pretty clear to me that the three Select concept is going to be a go.

[Ron S]

I've also discussed this with Michael (both in person and email) many times.  Dan is essentially correct.  However, I'm not very hopeful that this will ever come out.

Brad, you missed my last message from Michael, which I relayed in another thread. He made it pretty clear to me that the three Select concept is going to be a go.

This may have been asked and answered before , but why 3 selects instead of a single big box?

[Dan Gould]

I've also discussed this with Michael (both in person and email) many times.  Dan is essentially correct.  However, I'm not very hopeful that this will ever come out.

Brad, you missed my last message from Michael, which I relayed in another thread. He made it pretty clear to me that the three Select concept is going to be a go.

This may have been asked and answered before , but why 3 selects instead of a single big box?

Because there were so many of them (13 sessions if you include Babes Blues which was released in the late 80s), it would make for one big ass box that wouldn't exactly be cheap, especially since its almost a given that a full blown Mosaic box will include unissued tunes, making it even bigger.

The Selects are a lower price point and I would assume that Michael expects more people to buy one or two of the Selects and not all three; better to give them the chance to sample than to ask them to pay $100+ for the whole shebang, especially when, and even the former GHF will admit this, there isn't a lot of variety to the recordings.

[EKE BBB]

This may have been asked and answered before , but why 3 selects instead of a single big box?

Because there were so many of them (13 sessions if you include Babes Blues which was released in the late 80s), it would make for one big ass box that wouldn't exactly be cheap, especially since its almost a given that a full blown Mosaic box will include unissued tunes, making it even bigger.

The Selects are a lower price point and I would assume that Michael expects more people to buy one or two of the Selects and not all three; better to give them the chance to sample than to ask them to pay $100+ for the whole shebang, especially when, and even the former GHF will admit this, there isn't a lot of variety to the recordings.

But that would apply to many of the bigger (7, 8, 9... discs) Mosaic boxes, Dan. And this hasn´t been the policy so far.

[Dan Gould]

But that would apply to many of the bigger (7, 8, 9... discs) Mosaic boxes, Dan. And this hasn´t been the policy so far.

Yes, but the bottom line is, Michael is unconvinced of the sales potential of a full Mosaic box. Going with the smaller, less costly Select approach will minimize the risk of a full set that doesn't sell.

[EKE BBB]

But that would apply to many of the bigger (7, 8, 9... discs) Mosaic boxes, Dan. And this hasn´t been the policy so far.

Yes, but the bottom line is, Michael is unconvinced of the sales potential of a full Mosaic box. Going with the smaller, less costly Select approach will minimize the risk of a full set that doesn't sell.

Hey, and what about sales on a 10 CD Mildred Bailey or a 9 CD Four Freshmen box?

[Ron S]

But that would apply to many of the bigger (7, 8, 9... discs) Mosaic boxes, Dan. And this hasn´t been the policy so far.

Yes, but the bottom line is, Michael is unconvinced of the sales potential of a full Mosaic box. Going with the smaller, less costly Select approach will minimize the risk of a full set that doesn't sell.

Hey, and what about sales on a 10 CD Mildred Bailey or a 9 CD Four Freshmen box?

Experience is the best teacher?

[EKE BBB]

But that would apply to many of the bigger (7, 8, 9... discs) Mosaic boxes, Dan. And this hasn´t been the policy so far.

Yes, but the bottom line is, Michael is unconvinced of the sales potential of a full Mosaic box. Going with the smaller, less costly Select approach will minimize the risk of a full set that doesn't sell.

Hey, and what about sales on a 10 CD Mildred Bailey or a 9 CD Four Freshmen box?

Experience is the best teacher?

Ooops, I just thought they worked for the fun of it!

[Brad]

I've also discussed this with Michael (both in person and email) many times.  Dan is essentially correct.  However, I'm not very hopeful that this will ever come out.

Brad, you missed my last message from Michael, which I relayed in another thread. He made it pretty clear to me that the three Select concept is going to be a go.

Dan, I actually did see that post. I'm just very doubtful, however. I'll believe it when I see it. I hope you're right.

[Dan Gould]

Dan, I actually did see that post. I'm just very doubtful, however. I'll believe it when I see it. I hope you're right.

Well, since I just got the message from Michael, my hopes are up!

[AllenLowe]

wait, are we talking about just a big box, or one with CDs in it? Because if it's just a box, Mosaic can probably issue it pretty cheap, low list price, etc -

Edited April 27, 2005 by AllenLowe

[Ron S]

wait, are we  talking about just a big box, or one with CDs in it? Because if it's just a box, Mosaic can probably issue it pretty cheap, low list price, etc -

Shows how much YOU know--the BOX is 90% of the cost of each set.

[tranemonk]

Dan, I actually did see that post.  I'm just very doubtful, however.  I'll believe it when I see it.  I hope you're right.

Well, since I just got the message from Michael, my hopes are up!

I'll take what I can get...

so we're talking about 3 Different selects for the Three Sounds (total of 9CD's)?

If so do we have an ETA????

[AllenLowe]

I guess it depends what the box is made of - cardboard, plywood, silk, mink, pine -

[Dan Gould]

Dan, I actually did see that post.  I'm just very doubtful, however.  I'll believe it when I see it.  I hope you're right.

Well, since I just got the message from Michael, my hopes are up!

I'll take what I can get...

so we're talking about 3 Different selects for the Three Sounds (total of 9CD's)?

If so do we have an ETA????

No ETA.

And no 100% firm commitment - but definitely a strong implication.

[Ron S]

I guess it depends what the box is made of - cardboard, plywood, silk, mink, pine -

. . . or in the case of a Verve box, all of the above.

[AllenLowe]

I think they should use rust, like on that Bill Evans box -