Aggie87 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Posted June 13, 2005 Spurs aren't flashy (neither are the Pistons though), but damn they play team ball well. On both ends of the court. You can call it boring, but to watch it is really a thing of beauty I think. No single superstar with a supporting cast, or maybe two plus a bunch of others (Lebron, Shaq n Flash). Duncan may be the best big man in hoops today, but he sure acts like he's just one of the guys. The Spurs do everything right, IMO, and deserve recognition for being a true team, in this day of hog-the-spotlight, ego-driven stars...← This sort of thing irked me last year when discussing the Pistons, and still irks me today. In my opinion, the Pistons and Spurs are both loaded with superstar basketball players. The Pistons have the Wallaces, Rip, Chauncey, Antonio McDyess, and Tayshaun Prince--all stars, imo. The Spurs have Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, former slam dunk champ Brent Barry, perennial clutch shooter Robert Horry, and Glen "Big Dog" Robinson. No stars, my foot. "Just one of the guys." ← You can roll your eyes all you want, I still say Duncan acts like one of the guys, like I said in my original statement. He doesn't have a prima donna attitude. The whole team is like that. Yes, they are good players, and I'll maybe even give you "stars", but hell half the NBA is "stars" nowadays, given the big $$ contracts these guys get. If you tried to take Ginobili and put him on a team with a bunch of no-names, he wouldn't be able to carry them. Neither would Parker, nor Barry, nor Horry, nor Robinson. Not a one. They're good because they play together well. Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 14, 2005 Report Posted June 14, 2005 I think some of the Ginobili praise is going a bit over the top. The guy is playing fantastic, no doubt about it, maybe even meriting a finals MVP award, but I just read an article that called him a "superstar". Gimme a break! Guy Quote
Noj Posted June 14, 2005 Report Posted June 14, 2005 Spurs aren't flashy (neither are the Pistons though), but damn they play team ball well. On both ends of the court. You can call it boring, but to watch it is really a thing of beauty I think. No single superstar with a supporting cast, or maybe two plus a bunch of others (Lebron, Shaq n Flash). Duncan may be the best big man in hoops today, but he sure acts like he's just one of the guys. The Spurs do everything right, IMO, and deserve recognition for being a true team, in this day of hog-the-spotlight, ego-driven stars...← This sort of thing irked me last year when discussing the Pistons, and still irks me today. In my opinion, the Pistons and Spurs are both loaded with superstar basketball players. The Pistons have the Wallaces, Rip, Chauncey, Antonio McDyess, and Tayshaun Prince--all stars, imo. The Spurs have Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, former slam dunk champ Brent Barry, perennial clutch shooter Robert Horry, and Glen "Big Dog" Robinson. No stars, my foot. "Just one of the guys." ← You can roll your eyes all you want, I still say Duncan acts like one of the guys, like I said in my original statement. He doesn't have a prima donna attitude. The whole team is like that. Yes, they are good players, and I'll maybe even give you "stars", but hell half the NBA is "stars" nowadays, given the big $$ contracts these guys get. If you tried to take Ginobili and put him on a team with a bunch of no-names, he wouldn't be able to carry them. Neither would Parker, nor Barry, nor Horry, nor Robinson. Not a one. They're good because they play together well. ← I don't disagee. Any player who thinks he is a "superstar" but fails to win is only kidding himself. If the difference is being able to lead a team to victory, then we're talking about big men. On the Spurs, Tim Duncan owns the paint. On the Heat, Shaq of course holds down the middle. On the Pistons, the Wallaces control the key by committee. All of those big men make the players around them better by occupying the defense and creating space. I don't mean anything negative towards you, Aggie. I think, and I'm sure you'll agree, what really separates Tim Duncan, the Spurs, and the Pistons from the prima donnas is class. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Report Posted June 14, 2005 i'm getting it ready... if the pistons lose tonight Quote
Tjazz Posted June 14, 2005 Report Posted June 14, 2005 (edited) It's funny how the POLL numbers are increasing for the Spurs, now that they have 2-0 lead. Edited June 14, 2005 by Tjazz Quote
BruceW Posted June 14, 2005 Report Posted June 14, 2005 Yeah, Let's see the poll if Pistons win tonight! However, if Spurs win, it is over regardless of what Pistons say on TV. Bruce Quote
Soulstation1 Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Posted June 15, 2005 i have the spurs plus 4 points looks like i am gonna go 0-3 good thing i don't bet large sums of $$$$$$$ Quote
Aggie87 Posted June 15, 2005 Report Posted June 15, 2005 Very good all around game by the Pistons tonight! Hats off to them for their performance. Spurs never got in a real groove. Ginobili didn't get involved in the game at all tonight, after his knee injury in the first minute or whenever it was. Gonna be an interesting series after all, it looks like! Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted June 15, 2005 Report Posted June 15, 2005 So why haven't the Pistons been playing like that all series long? Criminey. Quote
BruceW Posted June 15, 2005 Report Posted June 15, 2005 Anybody notice Ben Wallace having difficult time handling the ball with one hand. He seems to have very small hands for a big guy. Loses the ball very easily on the way up when his shots are contested. Quote
Jim Dye Posted June 15, 2005 Report Posted June 15, 2005 How about Stevie Wonder playing the national anthem on harmonica! Quote
BruceW Posted June 15, 2005 Report Posted June 15, 2005 How about Stevie Wonder playing the national anthem on harmonica! ← Yeah, that was great Bruce Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 15, 2005 Report Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) Very good all around game by the Pistons tonight! Hats off to them for their performance. Spurs never got in a real groove. Ginobili didn't get involved in the game at all tonight, after his knee injury in the first minute or whenever it was. Gonna be an interesting series after all, it looks like! ← Agreed. Pistons played great; the Spurs played terrible. I'm guessing that the teams will split the next two before San Antonio wraps things up in #6. Though there's a small possibility of San Antonio wrapping things up in 5, and a slightly smaller probability of the Pistons winning the next two. Guy Edited June 15, 2005 by Guy Berger Quote
Soulstation1 Posted June 16, 2005 Author Report Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) anyone watch the end of the game last night? did stupid ass al michaels "put the game in the refrigerator" last night, just like he did last year? this guy at work told me he stole from my boy chick hearn AGAIN noj KNOWS what i'm talkin' 'bout Edited June 16, 2005 by Soulstation1 Quote
Tjazz Posted June 16, 2005 Report Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) OK, now Ginobili is hurt. Next Parker and Dunca n, then the SPURS are finished. (Parker was whacked across the face ) Edited June 16, 2005 by Tjazz Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 16, 2005 Report Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) OK, now Ginobili is hurt. Next Parker and Dunca n, then the SPURS are finished. (Parker was whacked across the face ) ← Hey, the Pistons know that to have a real chance of winning this series they need to induce some key injuries. But seriously, I'm not sure how bad that Ginobili injury was -- he's playing tonight. The Pistons know where to hit him tonight... Guy Edited June 16, 2005 by Guy Berger Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 16, 2005 Report Posted June 16, 2005 Another Sports Guy column: With the defending champions on the ropes, I couldn't decide whether to keep another NBA Finals diary or not. Did anyone care about Game 3? Did I really feel like slaving through another game, especially with everyone in L.A. practically rioting in excitement over Phil Jackson's return to the Lakers? Then I received the following e-mail from New Orleans reader Frank M.: "Do you think Hubie Brown's Julius Caesar haircut was forced on him by the ABC executives as a subliminal ploy to advertise 'Empire'?" ... 9:07 – Longtime NBA fan Stevie Wonder plays the national anthem with his harmonica. Very cool. He'll also be reffing tonight's game with Dick Bavetta and Bennett Salvatore. ... 9:16 – Tonight's referees: Bob Delaney, Joe Crawford and (drumroll please …) Mr. Bennett Salvatore! I can't believe it! We have a home team in a must-win playoff situation and Salvatore was assigned to the game? That never happens! ... 9:33 – The news on Ginobili: Thigh contusion. Uh-oh. (But seriously, is there a luckier team than the Pistons? Last spring, they lucked out with Jason Kidd's knee, the Derek Fisher shot and Karl Malone's injury. Last November, the Pacers looked like the best team in the East before the Artest Melee turned everything around. Last week, Miami was about to finish them off before Wade went down. And now, they're down 2-0 and the leading candidate for Finals MVP goes down 21 seconds into Game 3. I'm not saying good luck is something that should penalize them historically – believe me, I'm a Patriots fan, I would never insinuate such a thing. But Detroit's run of good fortune is almost unprecedented, don't you think? At the rate we're going, Duncan is going to be accidentally ejected from the Spurs' charter on the way back to San Antonio.) 9:34 – Hubie on Rasho Nesterovic's entrance: "It's nice to bring in a guy, 7-feet, who is an excellent defender who can block shots and rebound, and is also playoff experienced." Wow. If he's that nice to Rasho, what would he say about Darko? "It's nice to bring in a guy, 7-feet, who's, um … well, he's 7-feet." ... 10:10 – Yet another mystery solved: Stu Scott reports that Hamilton wears the Schnozzaroo Mask because his nose has been broken three times. According to Stu, if it gets broken one more time, there won't be any cartilage left. Looks like we have a new leading contender to buy the Neverland Ranch. By the way, in the past three minutes, we've heard English, French and Stu Scott. ... 10:37 – Tonight's halftime feature on Rip Hamilton is being narrated by former "Diff'rent Strokes" star Conrad Bain. All right, I made that up. It's Jamie Foxx again. If the NBA playoffs were the Red Sox, I think Jamie Foxx would be Ben Affleck. 10:42 – From reader Mike in St. Louis: "You think they could do one of those halftime caring and sensitive shows about Latrell Sprewell's kids? They could go through the daily struggle they have to go through to get a meal." ... 11:06 – Celebs on hand tonight: Eminem, Kid Rock, Anita Baker, Thomas Hearns … more important, Al just identified Eminem as "Marshall Mathers," leading to this exchange: Al: "Eminem, as you know, is Marshall Mathers – what, you don't know this? (Hubie does the Hubie Chuckle.) Al: Not only that, I have an iPod and Stuart Scott does not, which is the most amazing thing …" (Hubie does a louder Hubie Chuckle.) Al: "You and I are in the 19th century, Stuart's in the 22nd century, and Stuart Scott doesn't have an iPod." (Hubie does the full-fledged Hubie Chuckle.) First of all, I'm practically speechless. Second of all, what's on Al Michaels' iPod? Is there any way we can get the guys who hacked Paris Hilton's Sidekick to hack into this thing? I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. Al Michaels has an iPod? Let's just stop the Finals right now. 11:12 – Stu Scott tells a story about Ben Wallace's wife being disappointed in his play, and ends with, "Al, if Mama ain't happy at home, ain't nobody happy, you know?" Holla. ... 11:39 – Shot of Stevie Wonder clapping happily in the stands. See, that would be the best job you could have in a posse – the "Guy sitting in fantastic seats who tells Stevie Wonder what's transpiring in an NBA Finals game" job. 11:42 – Classic replay of Prince throwing Horry out of bounds as Wallace launches a 3, with Horry almost crashing into referee Bob Delaney, who was watching the whole thing happen … only Delaney didn't call anything. There's absolutely no question that David Stern will have that sequence digitally erased from the 2005 Finals DVD. ... 11:45 – Another sequence you won't be seeing on the Finals DVD: Rasheed dribbling the ball off his foot out of bounds, followed by Crawford calling it Pistons ball – whaaaaaaaaaat? – and Horry having a full-scale meltdown in disbelief, then Hamilton draining a 3 to ice the game. The lesson, as always: You will see hell freeze over before you see another NBA Finals sweep. ... 11:49 – Two days ago on ABC, Bill Walton was handing the trophy to the Spurs and suggesting that the Pistons had quit on their coach. Right now, he's gleefully yelling, "What do they call it? Deeeeetroit basketball!" and "It's going to be a very long week for the San Antonio Spurs." (Hold on a second, I just got whiplash watching him do that 180. Lemme find my bearings here. Just give me a second.) Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted June 16, 2005 Report Posted June 16, 2005 I love Bill Simmons. One question, however... did he ever mention any of the horrific non-calls and/or calls against the Pistons against the Heat? I was playing a gig, so I didn't see the plays he mentions (although I do not doubt they happened... the referree-ing has been very strange during the whole playoffs) but there were some absolutely ridiculous calls in the last series. Quote
BruceW Posted June 16, 2005 Report Posted June 16, 2005 OK, now Ginobili is hurt. Next Parker and Dunca n, then the SPURS are finished. (Parker was whacked across the face ) ← So....... what else is new in the NBA????? Quote
Soulstation1 Posted June 17, 2005 Author Report Posted June 17, 2005 pistons are spankin' dat ass i'm 0-4, had the spurs tonight Quote
Noj Posted June 17, 2005 Report Posted June 17, 2005 Anyone else think the refs have been heavy-handed with the home court advantage this year? Not that the Spurs could have won tonight with that pathetic effort. This is fun for me in one way--I just pay attention to the team that's suffering. I've got to watch both the Pistons and Spurs whine and moan for two games each. Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 17, 2005 Report Posted June 17, 2005 Anyone else think the refs have been heavy-handed with the home court advantage this year? Not that the Spurs could have won tonight with that pathetic effort. This is fun for me in one way--I just pay attention to the team that's suffering. I've got to watch both the Pistons and Spurs whine and moan for two games each. ← That was brutal. Spurs better learn how to play basketball again if they want to win this series. Guy Quote
BruceW Posted June 17, 2005 Report Posted June 17, 2005 DEEEEETROIT BAAAAASKETBALL Ya been told.........AGAIN! Quote
BruceW Posted June 17, 2005 Report Posted June 17, 2005 Whaaaaaaat?? Did you see Darko come in and get 2 rebounds immediately and that left hook was slamming...... Detroit Rocks Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted June 17, 2005 Report Posted June 17, 2005 When Big Ben is making jumpers, you know it's going to be a good game! Beating San Antonio by 31 points?! That's sick!! :bwallace2: Quote
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