dsgtrane Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 From woodyshaw.com: "Stepping Stones - to be re-released July 26, 2005 on CD - contains three new tracks, samples of which may be heard at: www.woodyshaw.com/index2.htm. "It Call Comes Back to You" has not been kept, but this recording will thoroughly satisfy any dedicated Woody Shaw fan." Setlist and a peek at the new cover can be found at: http://www.woodyshaw.com/index2.htm Great news for us Woody fans although it's a little disappointing that "It Call Comes Back to You" has been omitted. I guess it gives me reason to keep my LP and CDR copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Question: Was "It All Comes Back to You" a ballad, uptempo tune, or a midtemp tune?? Not sure, off-hand, if I've ever heard it before, and a quick check of the Woody critical discography indicates this was the only time he recorded the tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Holy Christ - that tune (correct title is "It All Comes Back To You") is probably my favorite on that record!!!! It's a piece by Onaje Allan Gumbs, medium tempo, kind of leaning towards a rock/latin/gospel straight eighths sound, and I have the solos memorized I've listened to it so much. It's on the Best Of Woody Shaw LP on Columbia too. I am seriously bummed about this. Why not leave it on Stepping Stones and keep Escape Velocity on Woody III and reissue *that* too. Not *thoroughly* satisfied at all. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 What? Who's producing this thing? KEEPNEWS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I wonder why they left it off. Was it because of time, or a copyright issue? I was hoping they would include extra material and make it a multiple disc. But that would have been a good idea, which is why there was no way it was going to happen. Still looking forward to whatever material it does include, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgtrane Posted June 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I wonder why they left it off. Was it because of time, or a copyright issue? I was hoping they would include extra material and make it a multiple disc. But that would have been a good idea, which is why there was no way it was going to happen. Still looking forward to whatever material it does include, though. ← Don't know why. Didn't tell me when they replied to my email. This release does include three tracks not on the original LP, including Escape Velocity which is from Woody III. The balance of Woody III, all studio tracks, appeared on the Shaw Mosaic. The other two bonus tracks seem to have been previously unissued. On a side note, I was told Theme for Maxine, which appeared on the LP but doesn't appear on the CD track list, will be included, presumably added to the end of one of the other tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgtrane Posted June 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hey Lon, you're only at 10,000+ posts? You've slowed down since I last posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I have? Yes, I have. A life must have crept up on me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) I'll pass on the CD and buy the three extra cuts from itunes if they're available. Fortunately, I have the LP burned onto a CD. Bertrand. Edited June 14, 2005 by bertrand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gslade Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) Listening to this omited track now (its a great tune and I like Carters solo) I just do not understand the actions of the label (the people producing) I was going to sell my lp but not now. Edited June 11, 2005 by gslade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) There was just a news piece on one of Germany's biggest news sites about the stunning losses the record majors have managed to accumulate this past year (in Germany). I wonder why? Could it be that they don't give a f*ck about what they're putting out? No "It All Comes Back to You"? Screw them. It's CD-R (still) for me then. Edited June 12, 2005 by neveronfriday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoliv Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 so many years waiting for this reissue and now this... Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Wasn't there a studio track included on the original LP? Is it on the CD reissue? (Pretty sure it was on the Mosaic...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgtrane Posted June 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Wasn't there a studio track included on the original LP? Is it on the CD reissue? (Pretty sure it was on the Mosaic...) ← Nope. You're probably thinking of the live track (Escape Velocity) which was included on Woody III, a studio album. It was not included in the Mosaic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Right you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari S Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I haven't really been convinced by that Gumbs guy. Well, it could've been George Cables who's really not that good of a choice either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 You know, I was never all that impressed with Onaje Allan Gumbs, either - I was only familiar with him through some appearances on "fusion"-type albums. But I caught him with Art Pepper at the Vanguard - Pepper's initial appearance, a couple months before the "Contemporary" albums - he was terrific! That gig has always been sort-of put down as inferior to the later date, but I don't know, it was pretty special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 I managed to obtain this cd yesterday and have been listening to it yesterday and today. 70 minutes of great music. This is very nice to have if you liked the band on Rosewood. The band is ultra tight. I for one like Gumbs' playing with Woody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeith Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 I picked it up and am enjoying it a lot. I think the tracks added to what was the original lp are superior to the one left off, "It all comes back to you" which as Cuscuna explains in the liner notes, was chosen for its more commercial sound and had more "airplay potential" At first I thought the sound was good, but a bit thin, but the more I listen the more I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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