clifford_thornton Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I just got a boot CDR of Lester Bowie's "Gittin' to Know Y'all" Part 2: "Unity First" in performance at the Frankfurt Jazz Days in 1970. Google searches have not turned up any live AEC-related (i.e., non-LP) material, so I need some help with personnel. Other than the AEC quartet, Jeanne Lee is on this (most certainly her), probably Kenny Wheeler and Karin Krog too, but I don't hear a piano and am wondering how close the band is to the MPS recording. It sounds like a smaller group to me. Chuck? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Don't know but tracks and timings would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 One track, 35 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Clifford, long list of players on that album. I filed it with other AEC albums. The AEC musicians involved are Roscoe Mitchell and Joseph Jarman. Dave Burrell is on piano. Not Jeanne Lee doing vocals but Karin Krog. Steve McCall, Tony Oxley and Claude Delcloo bang drums! Let me know if you want the full details. Might take a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 The personnel on your CDR may be different from the one on the MPS album 'Gittin' To Know Y'all'. The album details: The Baden Baden Free Jazz Orchestra Conducted By Lester Bowie Lester Bowie, Hugh Steinmetz, Kenny Wheeler (tp), Albert Mangelsdorff, Eje Thelin (tb), Joseph Jarman (sop), Roscoe Mitchell (as), Alan Skidmore, Heinz Sauer, Gerd Dudek, Bernt Rosengren, Willem Breuker (ts), John Surman (bar), Terje Rypdal (g), Dave Burrell (p), Leo Cuypers (prepared p), Barre Phillips, Palle Danielsson (b), Steve McCall, Tony Oxley, Claude Delcoo (dr) - Gittin' To Know Y'All, part 1 (23:35) - Gittin' To Know Y'All, part 2 (8:25) The Terje Rypdal Group feat. Karin Krog and Bernt Rosengren Joseph Jarman (fl), Bernt Rosengren (fl, oboe), Karin Krog (vo), Rypdal (g), Barre Phillips, Palle Danielsson (b), Steve McCall (dr), Claude Delcloo (bells) - Ved Soerevatn (8:38) Karin Krog four vocal parts by Karin recorded on a four-track machine - For My Two J.B.s (1:06) The Willem Breuker-John Surman Duo both bass cl. Surman left, Breuker right - May Hunting Song (4:47) Recorded December 12, 13 and 14, 1969 at the annual Baden-Baden Free Jazz meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Actually, this is different - a concert performance, and the piece is referred to by Bowie in the audio introduction as a continuation of the MPS recording (which I have). Was never on LP, as I got it in a stack of German Radio tapes burned to CD. On this one, definitely no piano and two vocalists, one of them Jeanne. Mysterious, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Thanks for posting the personnel for the LP though - a reminder of how tough that band is! It's funny, I am not a 'huge' AEC follower, but those orchestra recordings kill. Bowie was into some shit at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Hartmut Geerken says this is from March 22, 1970. It is listed on his Ancient To The Future site. Try emailing him to see if he has the personnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted October 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Personnel apparently the same as on the Born Free set, which excerpts this entire performance of "Unity First." Might as well share: LB, Frederic Rabold, Herbert Joos, Michael Sell, Manfred Schoof - trumpets, flugelhorns Albert Mangelsdorff, Paul Rutherford, Gunter Christmann - trombones Joachim Kuhn, Dieter Scherf, Michael Thielepape - altos JJ, Gerd Dudek, Heinz Sauer, Alfred Harth - tenors RM - bass sax Gunter Hampel - bass clarinet Axel Hennies - flute, piccolo, tenor sax Gerhard Koenig - guitar MF, Peter Stock, Claus Buehler - contrabasses Rainer Grimm - percussion Jeanne Lee, Karen Krog - vocals Including the intro by Bowie, it's about 37 minutes. It's good. PM me if you want a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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