Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 That is mine. How 'bout you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 That is mine. How 'bout you? I like it, but it might be beyond some bandleaders I've worked for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Pomea Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Music is whatever the RIAA tells me it is. Never mind. Good question! Can a cheer at a ballgame be music? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 i'm not sure, but i know it when i hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 This isn't meant as a smartass answer. I let music define itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GA Russell Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I would say sound that is pleasing to the ear. If it's not, it's just noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I would say sound that is pleasing to the ear. If it's not, it's just noise. Your definition means you bring lots of "baggage". Time to grow beyond and add new pleasures. Self limiting is a very negative thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Humans organize sound and call it "music", but once while walking in a stand of virgin pine in northern Michigan, I absolutely heard the sound of wind streaming through pine needles as music; thrilling music at that, like high strings in an adagio. Then there's birdsong, elk song, coyote song, etc. Another time (long time ago) I went to the local mall, and the minute I stepped inside, I heard what sounded like the wildest electric guitar duet ever - the two tones were swooping and diving like hawks, with a huge reverb on it. A second later I realized it was actually a couple of skilsaws being used somewhere down another wing. So any definition would have to be pretty broad, which the one in the subtitle is. Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCity Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 OK, while I'm trying to form a serious answer, I'll say: Music is whatever Stanley Crouch tells Wynton to say it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Close, but no cigar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 There was a time when I was heavily into disorganised sound and I thought it was music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 OK, while I'm trying to form a serious answer, I'll say: Music is whatever Stanley Crouch tells Wynton to say it is. You must be able to better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Close, but no cigar! Close to what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Yes Chuck, I'm still the "dreamy mystic". Close, but no cigar! Close to what? You are too close to my cigar. Please step back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe M Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 One could make the argument that even the most disorganized sound, actually IS organized, by the listener. Whether it's free improv with no form, or the sound of a string quartet playing Mozart, or the roar of the motorcycle going down the street right now, or John Cage, if the person hearing it considers it music, it is. I'm not sure I agree with that theory, but it's interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCity Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Actually, Chuck, I like the openness of your "organized sound" definition, but I have a little trouble with the "organized" part. Does it matter what the intent of the organization is? For example, a platoon of marching soldiers synchronizes the sound of thier boots to stay in step together. Is that, in an of itself, music? Or how about poetry. When spoken aloud, is it music? Or, on the other end of the organization question, is it possible to create music out of completely dis-organized sound? I don't know the musique concrete movement well enough to cite examples, but wasn't it kind of about having unorganized sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 No, and yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BB) Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Edited February 9, 2006 by (BB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BB) Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Easily. Would you mind expanding a little... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I think Joe G. is getting close, but still too geocentric. SETI project. How about some examination of the term "organized"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 How does John Cage's 4'33" fit into this definition? Easily. Would you mind expanding a little... That's up to you, not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I think Joe G. is getting close, but still too geocentric. SETI project. How about some examination of the term "organized"? "Organized" would imply intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I think Joe G. is getting close, but still too geocentric. SETI project. How about some examination of the term "organized"? "Organized" would imply intent. Yes!!!!! or maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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