L'Art Du Son

[sidewinder]

Anyone used this vinyl wash with their record cleaning machines?

I'm thinking of giving it a shot - in place of the usual RRL liquids (which I am pleased with but L'Art Du Son looks quite a bit more economical).

Thoughts and opinions most welcome !

[porcy62]

Miracle Disc Doctor's Record Cleaner and plain distilled water is my answer, and the Disc Doctor's brushes, with cheap replacement pads, are great, way ahead then VPI solution and brushes that comes with the machine.

I never tested L'Art Du Son nor RRL.

I am curious about this one:

http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_det...?Title_ID=14357

It seems a completely different stuff, anybody's Zyme?

Edited May 8, 2007 by porcy62

[4XB]

Anyone used this vinyl wash with their record cleaning machines?

I'm thinking of giving it a shot - in place of the usual RRL liquids (which I am pleased with but L'Art Du Son looks quite a bit more economical).

Thoughts and opinions most welcome !

L'Art Du Son is very good, Okki Nokki even better.

[porcy62]

Okki Nokki for 360 euros?

I just through 700 euros more in a VPI

[4XB]

Okki Nokki for 360 euros?

And made in Germany!!!

[porcy62]

Okki Nokki for 360 euros?

And made in Germany!!!

When I bought the VPI, the german option was the outrageous expensive Clearaudio.

BTW, I always thought that RCM are outrageous expensive, if you think that a home vacuum cleaner usually costs around 100 euros. I mean, for the best german dishes machine, Miele, I spent 800 euros, and it's far more complex and heavy duty then any RCMs in the market.

Edited May 8, 2007 by porcy62

[4XB]

Okki Nokki for 360 euros?

And made in Germany!!!

When I bought the VPI, the german option was the outrageous expensive Clearaudio.

I`ve owned a VPI and afther cleaning 10-12 records the spindle area became hot So I changed to the Clearaudio Matrix.

[porcy62]

Okki Nokki for 360 euros?

And made in Germany!!!

When I bought the VPI, the german option was the outrageous expensive Clearaudio.

I`ve owned a VPI and afther cleaning 10-12 records the spindle area became hot So I changed to the Clearaudio Matrix.

Mine's working fine.

[sidewinder]

Mine's working fine.

And mine. Love it !

Anyway, less of Miele dishwashers and back to L'Art Du Son.

[clifford_thornton]

Two words:

Keith Monks.

[sidewinder]

Two words:

Keith Monks.

Yeah, but you need a PhD in plumbing to service the thing ! Makes a VPI look cheap as chips too..

[clifford_thornton]

Just pretend you didn't see that extra "zero" and it'll be okay...

[sidewinder]

Hmm. Just checked out the 'Users' page on the Keith Monk website:

Very interesting !

Australian Broadcasting Corp.

British Broadcasting Corporation

(Including: Record Library, Archives Library,

Transcription Service, Local Radio)

Harvard University

Kings College, London

NHK National Broadcasting Co, Japan

Stanford Library CA.; U.S.A.

University of Kansas;

New York Public Library, U.S.A.

W.F.M.T. Chicago, U.S.A.

National Archives, London

Sibelius Institute, Finland

Denmark Radio

Sweden Radio

Norway Radio

Finland Radio

Swiss Radios

O.R.T.F. Paris

Belgium Radio

Netherlands Radio

RAI, Italy

Angola Radio

South African Radio

Nigeria Radio

British Forces Broadcasting London,

University of Utah;

Yugoslavia Radio

New York stations:

WNED,WNHT,WNZN,WQXR

WLLZ/WQRF Detroit

WFMR Milwaukee

Iceland Radio

Greenland Radio

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

Venezuela Radio

Moscow Radio, Russia

Singapore Radio

Hong Kong Radio

New Zealand Radio

Malaysian Radio

Korea Radio

RTE Ireland

Indonesia Radio

Greece Radio

Yemen Radio

Hamburg Radio

Absolute Sound Magazine

Buckingham Palace

Graham's Hi-Fi, London

Harrods London

Numerous Record Libraries;

Southampton University

Ministry of Guidance, Kuwait

Shiro, Japan

Sweep, Bangkok

Listed here are just some of the worlwide users of The Keith Monks Record Cleaning Machine

If Her Majesty uses one for cleaning her Tina Brooks Test Pressings then it must be good.

Edited May 9, 2007 by sidewinder

[sidewinder]

Ministry of Guidance, Kuwait

Sweep, Bangkok

[Clunky]

Okki Nokki for 360 euros?

And made in Germany!!!

I've noticed a Okki Nokki RCM on ebay.uk for around £250 , significantly cheaper than either the Clearaudio smartmatrix (£450) or the VPI machine (£475). Anyone know if it's any good.

[porcy62]

Two words:

Keith Monks.

My bank's account is glad I didn't see it before the VPI.

[4XB]

Okki Nokki for 360 euros?

And made in Germany!!!

I've noticed a Okki Nokki RCM on ebay.uk for around £250 , significantly cheaper than either the Clearaudio smartmatrix (£450) or the VPI machine (£475). Anyone know if it's any good.

A few friends of my are using a Okki Nokki. It`s a cheap and well working machine. Be smart, buy one.

[Clunky]

Anyone used this vinyl wash with their record cleaning machines?

I'm thinking of giving it a shot - in place of the usual RRL liquids (which I am pleased with but L'Art Du Son looks quite a bit more economical).

Thoughts and opinions most welcome !

anyone tried L'Art du Son yet, I'm using the RRL stuff ( deep cleaner if obviously dirty followed by one go with "Super vinyl Wash ") but it's not exactly cheap but it does work.

[sidewinder]

Up again for this one. I've just been trying out 'L'Art du Son'. First impressions are good - crisp sound and what seems to be more precision at the top end and bass. It's biodegradeable but you just mix up small quantities 1 part to 50 with de-ionised water. Not cheap to buy the 100ml bottle (£30) but over the long term it looks to be an economical option.

[sidewinder]

A few friends of my are using a Okki Nokki. It`s a cheap and well working machine. Be smart, buy one.

Isn't this the one where about 20% of them have had to be sent back for repair of defects?

Not in Germany - surely?

Edited April 5, 2008 by sidewinder

[Clunky]

Up again for this one. I've just been trying out 'L'Art du Son'. First impressions are good - crisp sound and what seems to be more precision at the top end and bass. It's biodegradeable but you just mix up small quantities 1 part to 50 with de-ionised water. Not cheap to buy the 100ml bottle (£30) but over the long term it looks to be an economical option.

I've been using this for about 6 months now, it's perfectly good stuff and much cheaper than the other two-part cleaner I've also tried. I see no point in paying the extra, I'd prefer to spend the money on fresh inner sleeves and more records or CDs !! It also doesn't irritate my skin unlike the isopropyl alcohol mix I used at first.

My Clear Matrix machine is just fine. does the job. The number of resurrections of LPs from my student days is impressive. None were scratched but some had food, beer, wine , thumb prints etc. all easily removed by 'L'Art du Son'.

Some records need 3 applications but my usual proceedure is 2 applications only but leaving the first application on for around a minute. can't be bother to waste too much time on cleaning I'd rather listen, so essentially clean records aren't cleaned. I clean those obviously dirty and those with excess surface noise. A remarkable number of the latter even when in visually mint condition are significantly improved. I can't say I'm looking for any improvement in definition rather reduced surface noise/distortion.

Edited April 5, 2008 by Clunky

[sidewinder]

It certainly seems to do the job with 2 applications. For intensive operations, the RRL solutions are probably still the best for me using the VPI but for routine cleaning 'Art du Son' is more than adequate. I think the noticeable improvements are the remover of gunge that is embedded in the grooves at manufacture. Seemed to have a very noticeable effect with a French DMM pressing.

[Clunky]

It certainly seems to do the job with 2 applications. For intensive operations, the RRL solutions are probably still the best for me using the VPI but for routine cleaning 'Art du Son' is more than adequate. I think the noticeable improvements are the remover of gunge that is embedded in the grooves at manufacture. Seemed to have a very noticeable effect with a French DMM pressing.

Thanks for the prompt, I must try it on the few DMMs I have, generally I've avoided these because of distortion on the inner grooves. I'll give it a go on the Mobes's Far away Land and Ike's Easy Living and report back

[sidewinder]

It certainly helped on my 'Far Away Lands' too. Nice to use a cleaning agent that is relatively quick ie. 2 applications per side, no change of bottle.

So far, the results today have been very good indeed.