New eddie 'lockjaw' davis

[NaturalSoul]

Sorry if this has been posted before. No tracklist on amazon, but available for pre-order on amazon and cduniverse (only 2 i checked).

[BruceH]

I wonder how much better he would have played if he could have moved his jaw.

[Spontooneous]

I wonder how much better he would have played if he could have moved his jaw.

I always wondered how much better Floyd Horsecollar Williams could have played without that darned heavy collar.

We won't even mention Willis Jackson's unfortunate gator tail.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

About 58 minutes of that must be the session done in 1954 at Birdland, with Doc Bagby and Charlie Rice. Half of it features Sonny Stitt - a great battle!. But I wonder why Stitt's name doesn't appear on the sleeve.

MG

[BruceH]

I wonder how much better he would have played if he could have moved his jaw.

I always wondered how much better Floyd Horsecollar Williams could have played without that darned heavy collar.

We won't even mention Willis Jackson's unfortunate gator tail.

[Swinging Swede]

About 58 minutes of that must be the session done in 1954 at Birdland, with Doc Bagby and Charlie Rice. Half of it features Sonny Stitt - a great battle!. But I wonder why Stitt's name doesn't appear on the sleeve.

Apparently those tracks are not present. I'm not sure why. Was that session perhaps only later acquired by Roost/Roulette and not originally recorded for the label? That might be the rationale for omitting it in that case. Or it will appear under Stitt's name. (Cool & Blue reissued it with Stitt's name mentioned first.)

Here are the description and track list from Worlds Records:

The majority of these recordings was made by the tenor-saxophonist with a trio for the King label, featuring two different organ players: Eddie Bonnemere, a comparatively obscure player, and the more versatile Doc Bagby. The recordings for King from 1955 were aimed at the jukebox clientele who knew little about the history of jazz but loved groovy melodies played with drive, zest and power.

I Only Have Eyes For You

Chihuahua

This Can't Be Love

Nightingale

Bingo Domingo

Secret Love

There's A Small Hotel

Bean-O

This Is Always

Leaping On Lenox

Tenderly

I'll Remember April

Moonlight In Vermont

Yesterdays

Little White Lies

You Go To My Head

What Is This Thing Called Love

Holler

Tickle Toe

Punch

Fireball

I Want A Little Girl

Hay Ride

Soft One

Grinding

I'm glad just to see that this batch finally came out after another long hiatus. Hopefully we will then see a bit more from Classics. For 15 years the label came out with a batch of 5 titles each month without a glitch, but in the last three years or so there have been extended periods of nothing coming out.

[Shawn]

hmmm, I need to check the King Jazz CD I have to see how much is duplicated here.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Thanks for posting the track list, SS. I’ve been doin’ a bit of diggin’.

I Only Have Eyes For You [1952]

Chihuahua [1952]

This Can't Be Love

Nightingale [1952]

Bingo Domingo

Secret Love [1952]

K9602 There's A Small Hotel [18 Apr ‘55]

K9603 Bean-O [18 Apr ‘55]

K9604 This Is Always [18 Apr ‘55]

K9605 Leaping On Lenox [18 Apr ‘55]

K9606 Tenderly [18 Apr ‘55]

K9607 I'll Remember April [19 Apr ‘55]

K9608 Moonlight In Vermont [19 Apr ‘55]

K9609 Yesterdays [19 Apr ‘55]

K9610 Little White Lies [19 Apr ‘55]

MISSING K9611 You go to my head [19 Apr ‘55]

K9612 You Go To My Head [19 Apr ‘55]

K9613 What Is This Thing Called Love [19 Apr ‘55]

K9614 Holler [19 Apr ‘55]

K9615 Tickle Toe [19 Apr ‘55]

K9616 Punch [19 Apr ‘55]

MISSING K9617 A smooth ride [19 Apr ‘55]

Fireball [?2 & 3 Feb 1956]

K9618 I Want A Little Girl [20 Apr 1955 – by Doc Bagby]

K9619 Hay Ride [20 Apr 1955 – by Doc Bagby]

K9620 Soft One [20 Apr 1955 – by Doc Bagby]

K9621 Grinding [20 Apr 1955 – by Doc Bagby]

This is a funny bunch of stuff. The tracks I’ve marked [1952] are from a Roost session attributed by Lord to 1952. Jaws himself was adamant (sleeve notes to “Hey Lock”) that he recorded them before he joined Basie in 1952, because he gave up recording under his own name while he was with Basie. In either case, I would be interested to know how Classics are attributing them to 1953.

I don’t know where “Bingo Domingo” and “This can’t be love” come from.

The Birdland session was produced by Teddy Reig in its entirety. However, the four tracks by Jaws without Stitt were not released until they came out on the “Hey Lock” double LP on Vogue VJD548, in 1978. That material is marked on the label as © 1978 – and THAT is the reason Classics didn’t issue it. It won’t be out of copyright until 2028 (in Europe).

The material with Sonny Stitt, from April 1954, is marked as © 1953 (oh yes?). These four tracks were originally released in 1955 as:

Roost RST-1203 - Battle of Birdland - Eddie Davis & Sonny Stitt [1955] Marchin'/S.O.S./Jaws/I Can't Get Started

Four further tracks from the gig:

Roller coaster

All the things you are

Whoops

Don’t blame me

were issued on CDP7975072, the reissue of 1203, titled “Jaws and Stitt at Birdland”. These tracks would be copyrighted even more recently than those that appeared on VJD548, so I can see the point of not including the four which are out of copyright.

Now, as to the later material, that all appears to be from April 1955. Four of the tracks, as I’ve noted against them, were recorded under Doc Bagby’s name on 20 April. But there were four other tracks done on that day, under Jaws’ name:

K9622 Johnny come lately

K9623 Dizzy atmosphere

K9624 Just friends

K9625 Talk of the town

OK, I guess there wasn’t room on the CD for these four, but it does seem strange to put the Doc Bagby sides in. If they wanted to include everything he recorded, why not include the recordings he made with Gene Krupa, or Dinah Washington within the period? In a couple of years, a Doc Bagby complete CD could be put together with all 28 tracks this important organist recorded as a leader.

Oh, and what happened to the missing tracks? "You go to my head" was issued on King LP506 "Modern jazz expressions". "A smooth ride" was apparently issued on King LP606 "Uptown", but it isn't in the King LP tracklist I've got. But "Fireball" is. So maybe there's been some retitling of this track on other releases and people have become confused.

MG

[NaturalSoul]

Didn't you say Shirley Scott and Lockjaw recorded for King MG? What year did that happen?

Edited September 1, 2007 by NaturalSoul

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Didn't you say Shirley Scott and Lockjaw recorded for King MG? What year did that happen?

1956. It'll be out on classics next year Frankly, I'd prefer the material to come out like the original LPs did, but they were released in a mess worse than some Prestige sessions, so I suppose it's better to have all the tracks from one session together.

MG

[Alexander]

Hey! What's going on here? Has Clem approved this discussion? Are we absolutely sure that this material meets with his approval?

I think that Clem should be given the opportunity to vet each and every topic before it's posted. You might be listening to unworthy music! We can't have that, can we?

Edited September 1, 2007 by Alexander

[Dan Gould]

Hey! What's going on here? Has Clem approved this discussion? Are we absolutely sure that this material meets with his approval?

I think that Clem should be given the opportunity to vet each and every topic before it's posted. You might be listening to unworthy music! We can't have that, can we?

Alexander, whatever your problems are with Clem, and whatever is going on right now, you need to cut the crap. You know how Clem expresses himself and you know what he is like in this forum. If you can't handle his put-downs, its a pretty simple thing to put him on "ignore".

But most importantly, I shouldn't have to post this in this thread. Get over yourself.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Hey! What's going on here? Has Clem approved this discussion? Are we absolutely sure that this material meets with his approval?

I think that Clem should be given the opportunity to vet each and every topic before it's posted. You might be listening to unworthy music! We can't have that, can we?

Alexander, whatever your problems are with Clem, and whatever is going on right now, you need to cut the crap. You know how Clem expresses himself and you know what he is like in this forum. If you can't handle his put-downs, its a pretty simple thing to put him on "ignore".

But most importantly, I shouldn't have to post this in this thread. Get over yourself.

Hear hear. If Clem's getting at you somewhere, handle it on THAT thread, not every other one.

MG

[Brad]

Why not just ignore the post? That seems the easiest way to go.