Tjazz Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) The three CHASE albums are being re-issued on 2-CDs by WOUNDED BIRD. Chase/Ennea/Pure Music [6/10] If you missed them before, here's some rock/jazz from the 70's with Bill Chase. "Get It On" $14.99 from Deepdiscount __________________ Edited June 3, 2008 by Tjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Oh, you know, I'm as promiscuous a musical whore as anybody, and as catholic in my tastes as a nun's &^$%#, but this, I dunno... To take it all at once might be an act of musical pornography better left to those who come by it naturally, if you know what I mean. But I could be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I love it when you guys talk dirty - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Might consider updating my LPs with this. My uncle (father's brother) was their agent ("Ides of March" too). Bill Chase seemed like a friendly fellow. Strange coincidence: The opening song to their first LP was called "Open Up Wide." The last song on their final album, before the plane crash, was called "Close Up Tight." Edited June 3, 2008 by rostasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) What crash? Am I right to assume (based on the sound bites I found) it's a bit Chicago meets Blood, Sweat and Tears kind of music? Edited June 3, 2008 by Bluerein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) What crash? Am I right to assume (based on the sound bites I found) it's a bit Chicago meets Blood, Sweat and Tears kind of music? http://www.dartanyan.com/BillChase/august9.html The first (hit) album's more of a Maynard-on-steroids meets Wayne Cochran. Sort of. Actually fun for me in small doses, and truthfully, the last album was a real breaking away, only 1 or 2 pop songs, the rest extended instrumental compositions, albeit of the, to my tastes, ponderous type. Edited June 3, 2008 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Clugston Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I remember the old Rolling Stone Record Guide had a one-word review of these albums: "Flee." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 "Open Up Wide" is a great song! I think "Get It On" had some pop airplay. Bill Chase played with Woody Herman. The ONE WAY CDs were OOP and rare. At $14.99, this set is a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 "Get It On" reached #1 on the charts, IIRC. HUGE hit, although the vilely revisionist toadies of "oldies radios" would rather you not know that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 "Get It On" reached #1 on the charts, IIRC. HUGE hit, although the vilely revisionist toadies of "oldies radios" would rather you not know that... I have the first album and always liked it. But then I also like the first seven Chicago albums, the first five Blood, Sweat, and Tears albums, both Ides of March ("Vehicle") albums, Sons of Champlin, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) I saw Chase when I was in high school, not too long before the plane crash. The last recording (Pure Music) was a favorite and I think they were heading in a very interesting direction. It was a great group to see live, with an element of excitement that didn't always exist on the recordings. Several band members are still around and active- trumpet players Jim Oatts (brother of saxophonist Dick), who lives in Des Moines and Jay Sollenberger, who lives in KC. I'm glad these sides have come out on CD, it's fun to revisit the music. A sad end to several promising careers, though. Edited June 3, 2008 by Free For All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Before I had listened to jazz, I saw Chase live in a small high school gymnasium. Bill Chase opened with an extended unaccompanied solo on "Open Up Wide". I thought, hey, this isn't on the record, he's playing too long! I also remember the guitarist, first name Angel, playing a solo in which he played as many notes as fast as possible and then in mid-solo, threw his guitar back over his head. It landed several feet behind him. I picked up a used vinyl copy of the first Chase album a few years ago and was surprised at how unlistenable it was. I find early Chicago and BS&T much more appealing today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I wasn't a fan of "Get It On," but I found an immaculate copy of the third album at a thrift store recently and bought it, in part for the picture of my friend Jay Sollenberger on the back. Parts of the record are pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I'm really into BS&T and Chicago at the moment so I'll ignore your advise (at least some of it) and buy the set (in loving memory of good old Bill as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 The bit: The hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guM-I-8CQ74...feature=related (just had a flashback of hearing this for the first time on the AM Top 40 radio and totally freaking out... The gig: featuring the guy who wrote both "Vehicle" and "Eye Of The Tiger". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Okay, I just listened to "the hit" and had two thoughts. 1. How in the hell did this become a hit in the first place? 2. I think I'll pass...it sounds like a jazzier version of Uriah Heep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 How in the hell did this become a hit in the first place? Horn Band Mania! A brief moment in the evolution of American Popular Music, lasting roughly from when BS&T hit big thru about the time Elton John hit big. Plenty of WTF sounds to be had, as well as some really good ones as well. But always, ALWAYS, mutton chops & at least one pair of white pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 How in the hell did this become a hit in the first place? Horn Band Mania! A brief moment in the evolution of American Popular Music, lasting roughly from when BS&T hit big thru about the time Elton John hit big. Brought to us by Al Kooper, 'Child is Father To The Man' is the first (and one of the best) I remember in the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Well I dig some of the early Chicago and BS&T stuff...but this doesn't quite measure up IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 The band "If" was more to my liking during this time. Great musicians like Dick Morrissey and Dave Quincy and a powerful singer in J.W. Hodgkinson with that unique voice. Still sounds great today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 How in the hell did this become a hit in the first place? The same way that this was a hit: http://tinyurl.com/3422u6 They both had a good agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 How in the hell did this become a hit in the first place? The same way that this was a hit: http://tinyurl.com/3422u6 They both had a good agent? The Ides of March are still performing around Chicago. My brother in law raved about a concert of theirs, which he attended about a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Chase's "Get It On" did not sound all that unusual on AM radio when it was released, as I recall. It was a time when just about anything could become a hit. Pop radio was not segmented like it is today. Soul classics and rock and roll songs, bubble gum and light pop, country crossover and even an occasional jazz song, were all mixed together on the charts played by every radio station in the U.S. I think that Chase gained some benefit there from the hit singles of Blood Sweat & Tears and Chicago in the two years or so before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/3422u6 That's odd- there are a couple spots where the sound and video are different- like around 2:03, you hear the trumpets but both trumpet players have their horns off their chops. It just seemed odd for a"live" recording. One thing about all these 70s horn bands- they provided a lot of music for the basketball/marching/pep bands. Hearing these groups was what first got me interested in music. I remember playing in a high school group where we transcribed and performed a bunch of Chicago, BS&T etc. Big fun. The algebra teacher played bass, so we called the group "Aftermath". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 That's odd- there are a couple spots where the sound and video are different- like around 2:03, you hear the trumpets but both trumpet players have their horns off their chops. It just seemed odd for a"live" recording. I might be off on this, but the distinctive timbral "fingerprint" of the original recording's horn section sound seems highly evident here, to the point that I suspect that tracks are being used. This impression is furthered by the timbral difference in the horns at the very end, that "collective blowing" thing over the last chord. That horn section suddenly sounds nothing like the one that's been playing in terms of presence, miking, and, yes, timbre. Maybe it's all the sample-heavy music I've been listening to lately, but things like the horn section "sound" from an old record, not so much the sound of the section itself, but the sound of the record of that section, have become highly distinctive to me, and I do think that these guys are using "tapes" ("tapes" since there's probably no oxide coated mylar anywhere in sight...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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