More from Coltrane at the Showboat

[brownie]

The Rare Live Recordings label (Spanish bootleggers) released in 2006 the double CD John Coltrane Live at the Showboat

taped at Philadelphia's Showboat club on June 17, 1963 during the Coltrane quartet appearance there with Roy Haynes subbing for Elvin Jones.

RLR is now releasing more music (out next week) from that gig (taped on June 24)

It seems that McCoy Tyner showed up late that day and part of the appearance was by Coltrane backed by Garrison and Haynes only. Tyner finally appeared for the end of the fourth of the eight tunes included. The CD ends with a solo piano by Coltrane on 'After the Rain'!

Probably this will be in the same rather mediocre sound of the first release.

[Chalupa]

This has been available for years on the trader's market. They probably downloaded it as an MP3. What a ripoff.

[Hardbopjazz]

Yes, I have had this for many years. Since it is a bootleg I wouldn't pay for it.

[brownie]

I'm out of the traders' market. Will get this one!

[king ubu]

These might run at a wrong speed... those annoying labels never get the details right, they just lift off whatever they can. THAT gets me pissed. I understand that people may prefer having these as real, pressed CDs, and I've never been one of the traders who claims to own anything, not at all... but these bunch of labels (probably it's just one guy anyway who had started 20 or these by now?) should get it right and should get the upgrades and fixes around in the traders community!

[Shrdlu]

You can adjust the pitch by running the music through Virtual DJ on the PC and recording it. Virtual DJ, and the club CD players such as the famous Pioneer CDJ 1000, also have the amazing ability to be able to alter the speed without changing the pitch. This makes them far superior to turntables and vinyl. You can alter both the pitch and the speed if desired.

[king ubu]

You can adjust the pitch by running the music through Virtual DJ on the PC and recording it. Virtual DJ, and the club CD players such as the famous Pioneer CDJ 1000, also have the amazing ability to be able to alter the speed without changing the pitch. This makes them far superior to turntables and vinyl. You can alter both the pitch and the speed if desired.

Yeah, but if you don't have either absolute pitch or are very good at it, you won't get it "right"... I don't try to do this, unless someone whom I trust gives me exact information. It's mostly not just "up a half step" or "down 35 cents", but the speed issues on such old recordings often aren't constant or don't affect all the tunes etc etc... it's too tricky for these bootleggers to get right.

[Niko]

and if you end up post-processing the recording on your pc, there isn't really a point to buying the cd anymore...

[John L]

I'm out of the traders' market. Will get this one!

Ditto. Despite the rather low fidelity, I really like the June 17 set: a fabulous concert.

[Son-of-a-Weizen]

Isn't this one of those 'bad for business' so

topics?