7/4 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 I'll miss reading their news, particularly the arts. Quote
Quincy Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 I'll miss reading their news, particularly the arts. No need to use the past tense. There are many ways around it, such as entry thru search engines (Google Advanced Search for instance) and with tabbed browsers it's not that inconvenient. The DMCA prevents me from suggesting this sort of behavior or going into more detail, but there are lots of helpful tips online about reading the NY Times that don't involve buying a Ford. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) at some point the nyt will become the national newspaper, with all the reporting and artistic limitations that will entail. the new nyt may be a strange mix of government and private control(a fannie mae of journalism, if you will). even that prospect is preferrable to it's demise. Edited March 30, 2011 by alocispepraluger102 Quote
7/4 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 I'll miss reading their news, particularly the arts. No need to use the past tense. There are many ways around it, such as entry thru search engines (Google Advanced Search for instance) and with tabbed browsers it's not that inconvenient. The DMCA prevents me from suggesting this sort of behavior or going into more detail, but there are lots of helpful tips online about reading the NY Times that don't involve buying a Ford. I'll check Google Advanced Search out. Thanks. Quote
Dan Gould Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 I'll miss reading their news, particularly the arts. No need to use the past tense. There are many ways around it, such as entry thru search engines (Google Advanced Search for instance) and with tabbed browsers it's not that inconvenient. The DMCA prevents me from suggesting this sort of behavior or going into more detail, but there are lots of helpful tips online about reading the NY Times that don't involve buying a Ford. I didn't mention "buying a Ford" and their largesse at least doesn't involve convoluted methods of finding articles of interest. I'd rather stick with "right click - open in new tab" as long as I can. Quote
GA Russell Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 I read somewhere that you can beat the NY Times print-edition "paywall" too... ..by quickly grabbing a copy at most newsstands, and then (without paying for it), running briskly around the corner and down the block with it. Yeah, it was Punch Sulzberger who said that. But there's a big difference, I think. With the paper, you are stealing what you did not have possession of. But with the internet, the NYT is sending to your computer the complete article, and in addition a cover that you did not want. By disabling your own java on your own computer, you are reading what the NYT voluntarily sent you. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 So, if something is somewhere on the internet it is free? Quote
Quincy Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 I didn't mention "buying a Ford" and their largesse at least doesn't involve convoluted methods of finding articles of interest. I'd rather stick with "right click - open in new tab" as long as I can. Sheeesh, just a joke Dan. I mostly thought it funny that you didn't know that Lincoln was a Ford and that Ford wasn't bailed out. American car brand knowledge was practically taught in school when we were kids. Quote
Unk Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 So, if something is somewhere on the internet it is free? Hadn't you heard...? Music, newspapers, magazines, books, movies...if you have an internet connection (even one taken illegally, say from a business), it's all yours, by right. Quote
Niko Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) disabling java on your browser cannot be stealing - only a few years ago, no browser had it and I know many people who keep it turned off unless they actually need it to stay save from cyber-attacks... whether it's morally ok to read the NYT under these circumstances I don't know (or care) but I have a clear opinion about whether a million dollar paywall should be able to handle attacks like these... to me the right comparison seems something like: If you find a NYT lying on the floor 200 meters from where it is sold - is it ok to read it? maybe not... Edited March 31, 2011 by Niko Quote
JSngry Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 They should sell ringtones. People will pay for those. Quote
7/4 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Posted March 31, 2011 They should sell ringtones. People will pay for those. Quote
GA Russell Posted March 31, 2011 Report Posted March 31, 2011 So, if something is somewhere on the internet it is free? Chuck, I have no problem with The Wall St. Journal requiring that its readers pay, and erecting an effective firewall to ensure that they do. But in the case of the Times, their "firewall" is not a serious attempt. No one has a duty to enable java on his computer, and the Times' "firewall" only works if you have your java enabled. It appears to me that the Times wants to have it both ways - They want to be widely read on the internet, and they also want to make money from subscriptions. The WSJ has chosen to collect subscription money rather than be widely read. It seems to me that the Times needs to decide which it wants, and I think it's silly for Sulzberger to suggest that anyone without java enabled is like a guy who grabs a copy of the paper and runs without paying for it. Quote
JSngry Posted March 31, 2011 Report Posted March 31, 2011 Maybe a streaming version on Netflix. People will pay for that, too. Quote
Dave James Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Posted April 11, 2011 I am slowly but surely weaning myself from the New York Times. A couple of times a day, I will get breaking news e-mail alerts. If you open up the link that's provided in the e-mail, does anyone know if that counts towards the 20 freebies you get in a given month? Quote
alankin Posted April 11, 2011 Report Posted April 11, 2011 The Times articles you get to from their news alerts and newsletters don't count against their monthly total. I signed up for a couple of their daily newsletters and tested this out. I also got an email with a 50% off deal for online subscriptions. Quote
Dave James Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) The Times articles you get to from their news alerts and newsletters don't count against their monthly total. I signed up for a couple of their daily newsletters and tested this out. I also got an email with a 50% off deal for online subscriptions. Another related question. When you open the link included in an e-mail news alert, it takes you to the Times story that was the subject of the alert. If you use that to navigate to other areas of the newspaper, does it count against the 20 allowable "reads"? Edited May 2, 2011 by Dave James Quote
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