I Grandi Del Jazz

[Hardbopjazz]

Is this label just boots, or are these legit releases?

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Gershwin/series__i_grandi_del_jazz

Edited June 28, 2011 by Hardbopjazz

[Dan Gould]

Its a weird mix because some are definite boots or grey-market or whatever, like a Ben Webster Verve I had years ago. But then there are live recordings, in decent sound that don't seem to exist elsewhere. There's a Grant Green performance, a Horace Silver and a few others. They came out with white covers, unlike the dark ones on the page you linked.

[Big Beat Steve]

IIRC these were two different series that were on the market almost concurrently. The white ones where "I Giganti del jazz"; the black ones were "I Grandi del jazz". As far as I remember the white ones came first but the IIRC black ones came not too long afterwards.

They were all over the place in the budget jazz bins here in the early 80s, and I remember buying a very decently sounding Fats Navarro compilation incuding the most essential Savoy/BN stuff from the black series as well as a few of the white ones that had obscure stuff that (at least at that time) was unavailable elsewhere. I bought one for several tracks by Harry The Hipster gibson (only several years later was I able to snap up a Musicraft reissue LP) and that one also had two tracks by Cecil Gant ("I Wonder/"Cecil Boogie") as well as four tracks from a 1961 Benny Carter band. VERY odd company ...

The booklets inside the black ones actually were quite nice for beginners (if you can manage Italian and have not seen the - mostly familiar - pics elsewhere yet).

Was glad to be able to upgrade my Fats Navarro to the Savoy/BN twofer reissues but kept one or two of the white ones for the odd tracks I still do not have elsewhere.

[brownie]

A list of releases from the Giganti Del Jazz label which was the first incarnation of the Grandi Del Jazz...

I Giganti Del Jazz

A liberal mix of legitimate (?) reissues and illegitimate boots!

[bichos]

yesterday i bought on a flew market the curcio/i giganti del jazz vol. 16 with the monk quartet, coltrane-dolphy quintet and the mingus quintet. it was since a long time on my wish-list. now i´m puzzling about the recording dates because as usually, there are no dates and places in the liner-notes. after a quick search in various discographies i´ve found out that the mingus (better git it (hit) in your soul) is from juan-les-pins, 13.july1960 and the coltrane (mr. p.c.) from birdland 09/10.february 1962 but i can´t find the date for the monk date. the tracks are "evidence" and "light blue" with monk, charlie rouse, john ore and frankie dunlop. on the record itself is written that it is from 1961. i can´t find a live concert from this time with this two titles in it. can anybody help me?

thanks in advance

keep boppin´

marcel

[jeffcrom]

yesterday i bought on a flew market the curcio/i giganti del jazz vol. 16 with the monk quartet, coltrane-dolphy quintet and the mingus quintet. it was since a long time on my wish-list. now i´m puzzling about the recording dates because as usually, there are no dates and places in the liner-notes. after a quick search in various discographies i´ve found out that the mingus (better git it (hit) in your soul) is from juan-les-pins, 13.july1960 and the coltrane (mr. p.c.) from birdland 09/10.february 1962 but i can´t find the date for the monk date. the tracks are "evidence" and "light blue" with monk, charlie rouse, john ore and frankie dunlop. on the record itself is written that it is from 1961. i can´t find a live concert from this time with this two titles in it. can anybody help me?

thanks in advance

keep boppin´

marcel

The year and personnel are wrong. According to Chris Sheridan's Brilliant Corners bio-discography, these are from Newport, July 2, 1966. Monk, Rouse, Larry Gales, and Ben Riley.

[robertoart]

yesterday i bought on a flew market the curcio/i giganti del jazz vol. 16 with the monk quartet, coltrane-dolphy quintet and the mingus quintet. it was since a long time on my wish-list. now i´m puzzling about the recording dates because as usually, there are no dates and places in the liner-notes. after a quick search in various discographies i´ve found out that the mingus (better git it (hit) in your soul) is from juan-les-pins, 13.july1960 and the coltrane (mr. p.c.) from birdland 09/10.february 1962 but i can´t find the date for the monk date. the tracks are "evidence" and "light blue" with monk, charlie rouse, john ore and frankie dunlop. on the record itself is written that it is from 1961. i can´t find a live concert from this time with this two titles in it. can anybody help me?

thanks in advance

keep boppin´

marcel

The year and personnel are wrong. According to Chris Sheridan's Brilliant Corners bio-discography, these are from Newport, July 2, 1966. Monk, Rouse, Larry Gales, and Ben Riley.

Recorded two days before the Grant Green and Kenny Burrell performances at Newport July 4 1966.

These also first saw the light of day on I Grandi Del Jazz. They were also documented on I Grandi Del Jazz as from 1961.

I see a patten emerging here It seems like the tapes were part of Library Of Congress but disappeared, to appear as part of the I Grandi Del Jazz series. Well the Newport guitar workshop ones were anyway.

Here is a recent thread about the Green/Burrell recordings and provenance.

My link

Edited July 22, 2012 by freelancer

[bichos]

yesterday i bought on a flew market the curcio/i giganti del jazz vol. 16 with the monk quartet, coltrane-dolphy quintet and the mingus quintet. it was since a long time on my wish-list. now i´m puzzling about the recording dates because as usually, there are no dates and places in the liner-notes. after a quick search in various discographies i´ve found out that the mingus (better git it (hit) in your soul) is from juan-les-pins, 13.july1960 and the coltrane (mr. p.c.) from birdland 09/10.february 1962 but i can´t find the date for the monk date. the tracks are "evidence" and "light blue" with monk, charlie rouse, john ore and frankie dunlop. on the record itself is written that it is from 1961. i can´t find a live concert from this time with this two titles in it. can anybody help me?

thanks in advance

keep boppin´

marcel

The year and personnel are wrong. According to Chris Sheridan's Brilliant Corners bio-discography, these are from Newport, July 2, 1966. Monk, Rouse, Larry Gales, and Ben Riley.

thanks, jeffcrom, for the quick answer! that´s why i love organissimo!!!

keep boppin´

marcel