money ball-a movie for all

[alocispepraluger102]

did you ever believe in anything so strongly and know you are right, but the world and the system, and the masses say you are a fool?

if you love baseball, or new ways of thinking, or kids, or brad pitt, or just darn fine movies this close to real life adaptation of the book will spellbind and delight you.

brad pitt put hs considerable soul into this movie and his listed as a co-producer.

the movie is about billy beane, once a promising baseball player, then and now, general manager of baseball's oakland athletics, who believes that intense statistical evaluation of baseball player would be much more effective than the current way of wildly expensive scouting hits and misses.

most small market teams had to find alternative, less expensive methods of scouting and roster building.

sabermetrics proved beane's and the small market teams' salvation.

the indians mark shapiro plays himself in a cameo role.

peter brand (jonah hill) a sports statistics nerd from cornell university, lurking unknown in the lower management levels of the cleveland indians, becomes his advisor, buddy, and right hand man.

there are many story lines from the season which ended with a playoff loss,

we all watch hundreds of movies. most are forgotten the next day.

moneyball will stay with you.

this was just released to dvd january 10 of this year.

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Edited January 15, 2012 by alocispepraluger102

[JSngry]

Saw it in the theater last fall. Enjoyed it immensely, as did LTB, and will second your recommendation w/o as much as a drop of reservation and/or hesitation.

The thing is, the whole Sabremetrics thing is no longer a secret, and the big money teams have figured it out just like the little money teams. So the moral of the story might be that it pays to be smart, but it pays even more to be smart and rich.

Which I guess means that if you are smart, don't dick around when it comes time to do something with it.

So much for idealism, eh?

[jazzbo]

I'm continuing to skip it because I just don't enjoy sports beyond a personal participation level, commercial sports just makes me nuts, always has ever since I returned from Swaziland in '71.

[alocispepraluger102]

Saw it in the theater last fall. Enjoyed it immensely, as did LTB, and will second your recommendation w/o as much as a drop of reservation and/or hesitation.

The thing is, the whole Sabremetrics thing is no longer a secret, and the big money teams have figured it out just like the little money teams. So the moral of the story might be that it pays to be smart, but it pays even more to be smart and rich.

Which I guess means that if you are smart, don't dick around when it comes time to do something with it.

So much for idealism, eh?

indeed, the rich clubs have caught on--the cubbies are just being indoctrinated in it by theo epstein.

I'm continuing to skip it because I just don't enjoy sports beyond a personal participation level, commercial sports just makes me nuts, always has ever since I returned from Swaziland in '71.

i enjoy viewing sports, but only on a personal level.

sports crowds and sports bars are ugly. i cannot abide them.

Edited January 15, 2012 by alocispepraluger102

[JSngry]

Everybody gotta watch something sometimes.

[Shawn]

I'm not a baseball fan, but really enjoyed Moneyball. Since the focus of the movie was what goes on behind the scenes my lack of interest in the sport didn't detract from my enjoyment.

[T.D.]

I read pretty much all of Michael Lewis's books - met him back when we worked at the same company (think Liar's Poker days). Read Moneyball some years ago, and the film is high up in my Netflix queue.

[JSngry]

The Google Ad on this page is showing Netflix right now for me. How 'bout that, eh?

[Tom 1960]

My wife and I were talking last night of renting Money Ball on "Movies on Demand" offered by our local cable company. Might be on the agenda tonight?

[JSngry]

Moneyball is like Eight Men Out in being a "baseball movie" that ends up being about bigger things than just baseball.

[kinuta]

It's a really good film, recommended. I'm not a sports fan at all, most sports bore me silly but they can provide good subject matter for films, Moneyball is a good case in point. It's easy to enjoy without having much or any knowledge of baseball because it explores the goings on behind the game.

Edited January 15, 2012 by kinuta

[JSngry]

It's ultimately about rationality vs instinct, where the instinct is colored by superstition and not fact.

More or less.

[RDK]

Good film!

The Google Ad on this page is showing Netflix right now for me. How 'bout that, eh?

For me, piano lessons and a used Nord organ. And advice to protect against organ transplant rejection.

[mikelz777]

did you ever believe in anything so strongly and know you are right, but the world and the system, and the masses say you are a fool?

Actually, yes. I am a Christian. (1 Cor. 1:18)

Aside from that, I wasn't as taken with the movie as you appear to be but I thought it was a very good movie. I found it interesting to see what happens behind the scenes in trying to field a decent team. As I am a fan of a small-market team (Twins), I can totally relate to the A's situation where they were being forced to make something out of almost nothing. (and then tryng to compete with the evil empire, the Yankees who are a bane to the Twins) Pitt was good but I don't see it as an Oscar performance. I almost preferred Jonah Hill's performance because it was more of a surprise given the expectations one would draw from his past roles. I found it very interesting to see their new approach to baseball grow, take shape and glean such great results. I actually remember that season and hearing about the surging A's and that fantastic streak of wins. I'd agree with the viewpoint expressed by those who said that it was an enjoyable movie even though they weren't sports fans. Even though the movie is about baseball, the focus isn't on the actual play of the game. It's one of the better movies I've seen this year and I would recommend it.

[alocispepraluger102]

by coincidence, i've watched a string of 4 or 5 movies in the past week where the leading male role happens to be gay, this one included.

Edited January 16, 2012 by alocispepraluger102

[alocispepraluger102]

did you ever believe in anything so strongly and know you are right, but the world and the system, and the masses say you are a fool?

Actually, yes. I am a Christian. (1 Cor. 1:18)

although at this point in my life i'm not a believer, i'm most empathetic to the 'outcast' plight of my christian friends.

Edited January 16, 2012 by alocispepraluger102

[BruceH]

I also enjoyed "Moneyball" a lot. Better than I expected, which is always nice.