JSngry Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 FELIZ!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Free speech is funny thing, ain't it? I strongly disagree with what Ozzie said but I don't think it was right for him to be suspended for it. Phillies are in trouble. I think it's a joke he got suspended. However, he put the Marlins in a bad spot. Economically, they had few options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 FELIZ!!!! The Rangers have another very good team and they're going to be tough to beat. That would be something, to have both Wild Card teams come out of the AL West, but it could very well happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Free speech is funny thing, ain't it? I strongly disagree with what Ozzie said but I don't think it was right for him to be suspended for it. Phillies are in trouble. I think it's a joke he got suspended. However, he put the Marlins in a bad spot. Economically, they had few options. Well, not sure this fits into the free speech realm, since what he said will really hurt his bosses, and fellow employees. He may lose his right to manage the team, if fans stop showing up...at the brand new park that no one knows if fans would keep coming to after the opener anyway. What's strange, is Ozzie has been pretty harsh when speaking about Hugo Chavez...I wonder if there is any truth to the excuse of thinking in Spanish and speaking in English...I mean, I know he does that...I just wonder if that lead to saying love when he didn't really mean that word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JSngry Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 What's strange, is Ozzie has been pretty harsh when speaking about Hugo Chavez...I wonder if there is any truth to the excuse of thinking in Spanish and speaking in English...I mean, I know he does that...I just wonder if that lead to saying love when he didn't really mean that word. If you read the full quote, he was just saying that he respected Castro because he (Castor) has been a "marked man" all these years and was still standing.. The "champion" mentality of all competitors, the refusal to get knocked down so as to be taken out. He's talking about basic "survival skills", not specific political brutalities. Horribly, stupidly worded sentiment, but certainly not a vile one within the very limited realm which, it seems to me, it was referencing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 FELIZ!!!! The Rangers have another very good team and they're going to be tough to beat. That would be something, to have both Wild Card teams come out of the AL West, but it could very well happen. I guess you're talking about the Rangers & Angels, but if both WC teams come out of the West, who actually wins the division? Oakland or Seattle? Neffie's debut as a starter got severely underplayed in the media, thanks to the twin-hype overkills of Yu Darvish the night before & Ozzie Guillen the day of, but - some of us were worried about his mental toughness, especially after Game 6 last year. would there be any hangover, etc, but no, this cat was DEALING. Walked two in the first, but after that, nothing. No sweat, total poise, incredible command of his off-speed and breaking stuff, and, when needed, that fastball. Seven innings, four hits, hands it over to Adams & NAthan, BOOM, game over. Not even 2:30 long, if my wall clock can be trusted. There's only been something like, four or five 1-0 Ranger wins in Arlington, ever. And last night was one of them. FELIZ!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 FELIZ!!!! The Rangers have another very good team and they're going to be tough to beat. That would be something, to have both Wild Card teams come out of the AL West, but it could very well happen. I guess you're talking about the Rangers & Angels, but if both WC teams come out of the West, who actually wins the division? Oakland or Seattle? Neffie's debut as a starter got severely underplayed in the media, thanks to the twin-hype overkills of Yu Darvish the night before & Ozzie Guillen the day of, but - some of us were worried about his mental toughness, especially after Game 6 last year. would there be any hangover, etc, but no, this cat was DEALING. Walked two in the first, but after that, nothing. No sweat, total poise, incredible command of his off-speed and breaking stuff, and, when needed, that fastball. Seven innings, four hits, hands it over to Adams & NAthan, BOOM, game over. Not even 2:30 long, if my wall clock can be trusted. There's only been something like, four or five 1-0 Ranger wins in Arlington, ever. And last night was one of them. FELIZ!!!! I'm an old man of fifty-three, I forget details.... a lot. My mind hasn't turned to 2012 yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) What's strange, is Ozzie has been pretty harsh when speaking about Hugo Chavez...I wonder if there is any truth to the excuse of thinking in Spanish and speaking in English...I mean, I know he does that...I just wonder if that lead to saying love when he didn't really mean that word. If you read the full quote, he was just saying that he respected Castro because he (Castor) has been a "marked man" all these years and was still standing.. The "champion" mentality of all competitors, the refusal to get knocked down so as to be taken out. He's talking about basic "survival skills", not specific political brutalities. Horribly, stupidly worded sentiment, but certainly not a vile one within the very limited realm which, it seems to me, it was referencing. Still a stupid thing to say given the fan base in Miami. He's lucky he didn't get fired. It would be akin to being the Brewers manager and saying Wisconsin cows are prime tagets for e-coli or beer is the gateway to heroin. There are hundreds of other better examples he could have used instead of an enemy of the US. He's an idiot. Edited April 11, 2012 by GoodSpeak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I'm an old man of fifty-three, I forget details.... a lot. My mind hasn't turned to 2012 yet. It's a big club. 57 and forgetful, too...um, what were we talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 What's strange, is Ozzie has been pretty harsh when speaking about Hugo Chavez...I wonder if there is any truth to the excuse of thinking in Spanish and speaking in English...I mean, I know he does that...I just wonder if that lead to saying love when he didn't really mean that word. If you read the full quote, he was just saying that he respected Castro because he (Castor) has been a "marked man" all these years and was still standing.. The "champion" mentality of all competitors, the refusal to get knocked down so as to be taken out. He's talking about basic "survival skills", not specific political brutalities. Horribly, stupidly worded sentiment, but certainly not a vile one within the very limited realm which, it seems to me, it was referencing. Still a stupid thing to say given the fan base in Miami. Oh, totally stupid thing to say, especially in Miami. But if you believe casual media reports, he was talking about Castro as A Great Human Being And Postivie Role Model, and I didn't get that out of it at all. Still there are certain things that you just cannot say in America without people jumping to the worst possible conclusions, and anything about Castro that is not ambiguously and totally damning falls into that category. Especially in Miami. Never mind Bautista's caretaking of the island as essentially a whorehouse and casino for debauchery-craving Americans, that's not relevant. Castro is The Single Most Evil Man In The History Of Cuba. Nobody else counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Ironic that many Cubans fled their country because of a lack of freedom, and now they want to deny freedom of speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Ok, it's now official. The Mets have assumed their rightful place in the land of suckage! These last 2 games have shown, I guess, how important Wright is to their success. He's been out with a fractured pinky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Still a stupid thing to say given the fan base in Miami. He's lucky he didn't get fired. It would be akin to being the Brewers manager and saying Wisconsin cows are prime tagets for e-coli or beer is the gateway to heroin. Whew, it was wise of your to avoid the biggest controversy - margarine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) Ironic that many Cubans fled their country because of a lack of freedom, and now they want to deny freedom of speech. I am sure they would say he has the freedom to say it, and they have the right to protest it. It's hyperbole to be sure, but someone said on espn that's their Hitler. Families were broken up because of him, killed because of him(AND YES NOT IN ANY NUMBERS COMPARABLE TO HITLER!) so they really don't want to hear good things about "Hitler" Edited April 11, 2012 by BERIGAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I understand the emotion, definitely. You still have survivors, lots of them. Survivors, refugees, children and grandchildren of people who have some pretty horrific stories to tell. And Guillen definitely should be cognizant of that. But I don't think it's at all fair (although sadly symptomatic of the times) that one quote gets isolated out of context and all of a sudden it's Ozzie Guillen Thinks Sadistic Dictators Are Cool People. Ain't like that, at least not what I've found. And I don't blame the Cuban-American community nearly as much I do the lazy media. For every one articel I found online that gave the full quote (which provides a bit of context for a careless statement that definitely needed it), there were significantly more that just reported the Guillen Loves Castro. Period. The funny thing about it is that if all this hubbub continues, Guillen's identification of/with Castro as a Marked Man Who Survives will only be strengthened. Besides - Americans love gangsters. Let's not pretend we don't. You'd be hard pressed to find somebody who says "I love John Gotti", but you'll find plenty of people who say, "yeah, I gotta respect how the mob lives by their code" and so forth. So let's get real about what was actually said and what it really meant, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlitweiler Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 My problem with Ozzie is simply that he was a lousy manager the last couple of years in Chicago. How could he put a .154-hitting DH into the lineup day after day when he had at least 2 guys hitting well over .100 better on the bench? He didn't even seem interested in his teams. Did Miami hire him to win games or to attract attention? Because making the news, getting quoted on TV, became his main skill a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Check out this picture. You may recognize the guy third from the left along with the guy in the combat fatigues. Guess this is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 ...and Donald Fehr trying his damnedest to get so far behind somebody's head that nobody will notice that he's there too....nice try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 The Dodgers actually look like the have the makings of a decent team this year. Nice game by Billingsley last night; Javy Guerra gets his fourth save; Ethier is looking healthy and interested in playing some baseball. Kemp, of course, seems to be pissed-off that he didn't win the Triple Crown & MVP last year, so he's going to try to do both this year -- talk about a player putting all the pieces together, he really is the best player in baseball right now. There are some people actually showing up for the games now, so it might be a good year for The Blue. The NL West seems to be very competitive this year, with the DBacks, Dodgers, Giants, and Rockies vying for the lead. The Giants though, wow, Lincicum didn't even last three innings last night, he really looked bad, he now has a ERA of 12.91. I loved how the Giants announcers declared that Lincicum "has is stuff tonight" after just two pitches! The dangers of being a homer I guess. 17 runs, that's pretty bad, even if it is in Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Still a stupid thing to say given the fan base in Miami. He's lucky he didn't get fired. It would be akin to being the Brewers manager and saying Wisconsin cows are prime tagets for e-coli or beer is the gateway to heroin. Whew, it was wise of your to avoid the biggest controversy - margarine. Yer killin' me, Quincy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Looks like Buster Posey and I have something in common: We are both battling a case of Shingles. Wheee! Posey sidelined with Shingles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 So far the Indians look like poo-poo Still got them in the World Series.... Looks like Buster Posey and I have something in common: We are both battling a case of Shingles. Wheee! Posey sidelined with Shingles You don't own any shin guards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Looks like Buster Posey and I have something in common: We are both battling a case of Shingles. Wheee! Posey sidelined with Shingles You don't own any shin guards? Har. Never was a soccer player so, no. Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Through six games, the Yankees 3-4-5 hitters (Cano, Rodriguez and Teixeira) have zero RBI's and a combined batting average of .208. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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