Decoding Album and Song Title Meanings

[robertoart]

Here is a meaning I found at a contemporary slang dictionary for the term 'bait'.

Reminded me of the title 'Good Bait', that I figured probably wasn't about fishing.

bait

1. adj. To describe a location as unsafe, or high profile. Usually refers to the danger of being caught by police. "I ain’t smokin’ here, this place is mad bait."

Another term I often wondered about is the word 'channel' that George Braith refers to in liner notes, when talking about one of his compositions. I assume he is referring to the turnaround in a chord progression , but it is something I have otherwise not heard used anywhere else.

[robertoart]

On a related note, I was just enjoying this interview with Melvin Gibbs:

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/06/heavy-metal-be-bop-4-interview-with-melvin-gibbs/

Very great and interesting read. Especially Melvin Gibbs take on Sharrock and Last Exit, Ornette ect.

He says he will not say much about Last Exit 'beyond this', and then goes on to talk his head off

Obviously he was enjoying the chance to discuss the music.

[JSngry]

Another term I often wondered about is the word 'channel' that George Braith refers to in liner notes, when talking about one of his compositions. I assume he is referring to the turnaround in a chord progression , but it is something I have otherwise not heard used anywhere else.

That's a word used to describe what is more commonly known as the bridge. I think Monk might have used it too. I've heard it a few times over the years, but not too many.

[robertoart]

Another term I often wondered about is the word 'channel' that George Braith refers to in liner notes, when talking about one of his compositions. I assume he is referring to the turnaround in a chord progression , but it is something I have otherwise not heard used anywhere else.

That's a word used to describe what is more commonly known as the bridge. I think Monk might have used it too. I've heard it a few times over the years, but not too many.

I thought it was either a turnaround or the bridge. Thanks for the confirmation.

[Pete C]

Seinfeld is in some high yellow hot water.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/seinfeld-car-ad-row-we-want-a-black-actor-not-too-dark/story-e6frfmq9-1226333237918

[robertoart]

Seinfeld is in some high yellow hot water.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/seinfeld-car-ad-row-we-want-a-black-actor-not-too-dark/story-e6frfmq9-1226333237918

mmm...must of been esp.

My link

[JSngry]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color

The phrase “brown paper bag test” has traditionally been used by African Americans throughout the twentieth and twenty-first century with reference to a ritual once practiced by certain African-American sororities and fraternities who would not let anyone into the group whose skin tone was darker than a paper bag. Also known as a paper bag party, these lighter-skinned social circles reflected an idea of exclusion and exclusiveness. The notion of the “paper bag” has carried a complex and obscure meaning in black communities for many decades.The reason for the usage of the "paper bag" is because the color of the paper bag is considered to be the "center" marker of blackness that distinguishes “light skin” from “dark skin” on a continuum stretching infinitely from black to white. Also, the brown paper bag is believed to act as a benchmark for certain levels of acceptance and inclusion. Spike Lee's film satirized this practice at historically black colleges and universities. Along with the "paper bag test," guidelines for acceptance among the lighter ranks included the "comb test" and “pencil test,” which tested the coarseness of one's hair, and the "flashlight test," which tested a person's profile to make sure their features measured up or were close enough to those of the Caucasian race.

[jeffcrom]

Anyone with access to it should watch episode 5 of Frank's Place - "Frank Joins a Club," concerning Frank's adventures with the Capital C Club in New Orleans.

[bertrand]

Another term I often wondered about is the word 'channel' that George Braith refers to in liner notes, when talking about one of his compositions. I assume he is referring to the turnaround in a chord progression , but it is something I have otherwise not heard used anywhere else.

That's a word used to describe what is more commonly known as the bridge. I think Monk might have used it too. I've heard it a few times over the years, but not too many.

Didn't Monk call the bridge the 'inside'?

Bertrand.

[JSngry]

Maybe it was Steve Lacy talking about one of Monk's tunes. Could have been.

[David Ayers]

On a related note, I was just enjoying this interview with Melvin Gibbs:

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/06/heavy-metal-be-bop-4-interview-with-melvin-gibbs/

Very great and interesting read. Especially Melvin Gibbs take on Sharrock and Last Exit, Ornette ect.

He says he will not say much about Last Exit 'beyond this', and then goes on to talk his head off

Obviously he was enjoying the chance to discuss the music.

Yes I like the discussion of Last Exit. Interesting fact he mentions in passing, that the musicians were not in the studio at the same time for the Last Exit studio record.

It's a great interview and takes you into areas of recent musical history and thinking that aren't often on the radar.

[robertoart]

If anyone wants to uncover the 'real' story behind the title and lyrics of Lonnie Smith's 'Move Your Hand' album, the doctor reveals all in this good humoured and expansive interview from Australian radio, recorded only a few days ago.

The interview starts at approximately 54.00 minutes into the audio file. Enjoy!

My link

[robertoart]

I often read term 'playing the dozens' used when people talk about Jazz.

Is this Wikipedia entry an accurate guide to its meaning and use;

The Dozens is a game among two contestants, common in African American communities, where participants insult each other until one gives up or violence erupts. It is customary for the Dozens to be played in front of an audience of bystanders, who encourage the participants to reply with more egregious insults to heighten the tension and consequently, to be more interesting to watch. Among African Americans it is also known as "sounding", "joning", "woofing", "wolfing", "sigging", or "signifying"[1][2], while the insults themselves are known as "snaps".[3][4][5]

The origin of the game is unclear, but it has roots in Africa: similar contests are held in Nigeria among the Igbo people, and in Ghana. Comments in the game focus on the opposite player's intelligence, appearance, competency, social status, financial situation, and disparaging remarks about the other player's family members—mothers in particular—are common. Commentary is often related to sexual issues, where the game is then referred to as the "Dirty Dozens".[6] According to sociologist Harry Lefever and journalist John Leland, the game is almost exclusive to African Americans; whites often fail to understand how to play the game and can take remarks in the Dozens seriously.[note 1] Both males and females participate, but the game is more commonly played among males of varying social status.[1]

Several theories have been put forth to explain why the game was developed. One hypothesis from 1939 suggests that the game formed as a way for African Americans to express aggression in an oppressive society that severely punished such displays against whites. Another theory from 1962 highlights the game's focus on one's opponents mother is a reflection of the dominance of females in African American families and how young males may feel rejected by females and react accordingly. The importance of mothers in African and African American families is at the heart of the game: insulting someone else's mother is sure to inflame the passions of the other player. The Dozens is a contest of personal power: wit, self-control, verbal ability, mental acuity, and toughness.[6]

[cih]

Elijah Wald just had a book published on the Dozens (& Rap) - My link

Haven't read it

though I read recently another short thing he wrote on Hip Hop - he wrote -

"For any longtime blues fan, hip-hop should not be a major stretch. After all, it is coming from the same kind of communities and artists who produced our favorite records. "

this seemed a bit simplistic to me (but what do I know? nowt. a lot less than him anyways)

There are some great records of course - Will Shade of Memphis Jug did a very dirty dirty Dozens-type recording for George Mitchell

[Don Brown]

It seems people with African ancestry "do the dozens" wherever they were born. My wife is from Trinidad and it's always amusing to watch and listen whenever her brothers and cousins and other Trinidadians end up together in the same room. The good-natured insults that get exchanged are often much funnier than some of the stuff we pay money to hear. The Trinis don't use the term "dozens" though. They call this type of verbal sparring "fati",which I would guess comes from fatigue. The manner in which they wear each other down can certainly be fatiguing. The custom strikes me as being a really healthy outlet and, if anything, seems to cement relationships between the participants.

[JSngry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdWgfr6Dqk0&feature=related

[cih]

It seems people with African ancestry "do the dozens" wherever they were born. My wife is from Trinidad and it's always amusing to watch and listen whenever her brothers and cousins and other Trinidadians end up together in the same room. The good-natured insults that get exchanged are often much funnier than some of the stuff we pay money to hear. The Trinis don't use the term "dozens" though. They call this type of verbal sparring "fati",which I would guess comes from fatigue. The manner in which they wear each other down can certainly be fatiguing. The custom strikes me as being a really healthy outlet and, if anything, seems to cement relationships between the participants.

As in the US, you can hear it in the music too - Calypso War. Same with Jamaican deejays.

[robertoart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdWgfr6Dqk0&feature=related

C'mon Amfeny

[Pete C]

Elijah Wald just had a book published on the Dozens (& Rap) - My link

Haven't read it

Another interesting proto-rap form in northeastern Brazil is repente:

http://www.brazilmax.com/columnist.cfm/idcolumn/37

http://thegoodblood.blogspot.com/2011/06/embolada-repente-and-google.html

[seeline]

Another interesting proto-rap form in northeastern Brazil is repente:

http://www.brazilmax.com/columnist.cfm/idcolumn/37

http://thegoodblood.blogspot.com/2011/06/embolada-repente-and-google.html

also here - http://maria-brazil.org/embolada.htm

You can see/hear repentistas improvising verses in the movie Saudade do Futuro (about poor people from the northeastern part of Brazil who have migrated to São Paulo in search of work).

Edited June 15, 2012 by seeline

[robertoart]

Not exactly as 'conceptual' as 'Street Priest' and 'Barbeque Dog', but still a decoded album title nevertheless.

JW: How did Alligator Bogaloo get its name?

LD: It was my title. I’m a golfer and had been playing down in Florida. One day I hit my ball and it went in a ditch. I started to go in to get it and the caddy stopped me and said, “Don’t do that.” Then he told me why. When I stuck my club down in the ditch with all the foliage, an alligator lifted up his head [laughs]. I liked the way the word "alligator" sounded with "bogaloo," which was a new hot dance then.

from the Lou Donaldson interview here

My link

Edited July 16, 2012 by freelancer

[David Ayers]

Not as good as Aric's interview, although surprisingly similar.

The facts on drugs account for those many indifferent passages on Blue Note disks, including GG's innumerable fluffs and meandering.

[robertoart]

Not as good as Aric's interview, although surprisingly similar.

The facts on drugs account for those many indifferent passages on Blue Note disks, including GG's innumerable fluffs and meandering.

I always thought it was some kind of ticket or pass on the cover. I was actually glad to find out it was a sandwich.

A good piece of Jazz scholarship that was

I love Lou's surly reminiscences about being ostracised for not 'using' back in the day.

I've also read him say that he thought all the so-called reformed users were still secretly getting high.

"If they're still making it, they're still taking it"

I love his alto playing.

I also wish I could afford the three hundred dollars the near mint first pressing of Here Tis just sold for on ebay yesterday.

My link

BTW that man on the cover looks like he could use a bigger sandwich than that.

Edited July 16, 2012 by freelancer

[JSngry]

Harmless folk-novelty or coded missive to The Revolution?

Sold like the former, still sounds to me like the latter.

Hmmm...