Spectrum Road with Vernon Reid, Jack Bruce, John Medeski, Cindy Blackm

[JETman]

... darned typos ... at least, a funny one, and typically Germon ...

Misspelling aside, he is SCOTTISH, and therefore CANNOT be one of the most important British musicians.

[mikeweil]

I thought there was a difference between British and English.

[JETman]

I thought there was a difference between British and English.

???

[robertoart]

How about 'one of the UK's finest'. Or the world's most famous 'Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama' dropout.

[JohnJ]

... darned typos ... at least, a funny one, and typically Germon ...

Misspelling aside, he is SCOTTISH, and therefore CANNOT be one of the most important British musicians.

As Scotland (at least at the moment) is part of Great Britain I am not quite sure what you mean.

[JETman]

... darned typos ... at least, a funny one, and typically Germon ...

Misspelling aside, he is SCOTTISH, and therefore CANNOT be one of the most important British musicians.

As Scotland (at least at the moment) is part of Great Britain I am not quite sure what you mean.

It's gotten old already at this point, but, fwiw, is being Scottish the same as being British?

[Pete C]

It's gotten old already at this point, but, fwiw, is being Scottish the same as being British?

No less than being English or Welsh, but clearly not the same, as the component parts of Great Britain have their own historical identities. It would be incorrect to assume English and British are synonyms.

Being a Lubavitcher or Satmar Hasid is not the same as being Jewish, but all Hasidim are also Jews. I am also a Jew according to Jewish law even though I'm an atheist.

But you do seem to enjoy "correcting" people with incorrect information.

Edited July 2, 2012 by Pete C

[Pete C]

How about 'one of the UK's finest'.

And that would include the Northern Irish, who aren't British!

That would be true if only he was British!

You mean "if he were British," of course.

[JETman]

It's gotten old already at this point, but, fwiw, is being Scottish the same as being British?

No less than being English or Welsh, but clearly not the same, as the component parts of Great Britain have their own historical identities. It would be incorrect to assume English and British are synonyms.

Being a Lubavitcher or Satmar Hasid is not the same as being Jewish, but all Hasidim are also Jews. I am also a Jew according to Jewish law even though I'm an atheist.

But you do seem to enjoy "correcting" people with incorrect information.

The same as you seem to enjoy correcting my (in your eyes) incorrect correcting!

As you pointed out, each country within the United Kingdom has its own cultural and historical identity. As such, Jack Bruce would no sooner call himself British or English (staying with your love of semantics) than Tubby Hayes or John Surman would call themselves Irish or Scottish.

That would be tantamount to me calling myself a Californian.

[Pete C]

I respect your right to be wrong, but I don't respect your aptitude for logic.

If you were a Californian, a New Yorker or a Floridian, you would also be an American (at least assuming citizenship).

If I am told somebody is British, I have no way of knowing whether they hail from Cardiff, Glasgow or Manchester (etc.), without further information, but if I know where they're from, I can infer that they're all British.

Your analogy doesn't hold water. Where did you fish the red herring about Tubby Hayes and John Surman?

But that shouldn't stop you from keeping on trying...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people

Edited July 2, 2012 by Pete C

[7/4]

This conversation is halarious!

[JETman]

I respect your right to be wrong, but I don't respect your aptitude for logic.

If you were a Californian, a New Yorker or a Floridian, you would also be an American (at least assuming citizenship).

If I am told somebody is British, I have no way of knowing whether they hail from Cardiff, Glasgow or Manchester (etc.), without further information, but if I know where they're from, I can infer that they're all British.

Your analogy doesn't hold water. Where did you fish the red herring about Tubby Hayes and John Surman?

But that shouldn't stop you from keeping on trying...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people

I'm not doing this with you anymore. I'm a New Yorker too so I know where YOU'RE coming from. If you want to continue this, send a pm.

Btw, wiki has never been considered a trusted source.

This conversation is just a LITTLE off topic.

There's a first time for everything!

[JohnJ]

... darned typos ... at least, a funny one, and typically Germon ...

Misspelling aside, he is SCOTTISH, and therefore CANNOT be one of the most important British musicians.

As Scotland (at least at the moment) is part of Great Britain I am not quite sure what you mean.

It's gotten old already at this point, but, fwiw, is being Scottish the same as being British?

I have no wish to flog a dead horse but no, it is not the same. Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales and thus Jack Bruce is both Scottish and British in the same way that I am both English and British. We are both citizens of 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'.

[mikeweil]

I have no wish to flog a dead horse but no, it is not the same. Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales and thus Jack Bruce is both Scottish and British in the same way that I am both English and British. We are both citizens of 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'.

That's exactly the way I understand it!

[robertoart]

So did you know Vernon Reid's family is from Haiti and he lived in England for a while when he was a kid?

And it seems a lot of people have some good things to say about this band

[Pete C]

Btw, wiki has never been considered a trusted source.

Then you can make it better by correcting all the misinformation you assume is in the article!

[7/4]

The hilarity continues.

[PHILLYQ]

So did you know Vernon Reid's family is from Haiti and he lived in England for a while when he was a kid?

And it seems a lot of people have some good things to say about this band

I think his family is from Jamaica, and he also lived in Flatbush(Brooklyn) for awhile. He played very well when I saw Spectrum Road on 6/29.

[jdw]

I saw this band in Vancouver BC on June 25. Vernon Reid gave a short speech honouring Tony Williams and the dedication required to keep the original Lifetime band going against all the obstacles he faced. I think this attitude is shared by all four musicians in the Spectrum Road band. They seem to be really serious about the repertoire and they are really serious about playing LOUD. If you go to see them, hearing protection is a must.

[david weiss]

I saw this band at the Playboy Jazz Festival a couple of weeks ago. They closed the Festival the day I played there.

They followed something called Robin Thicke who I never heard of and when I inquired back stage who the fuck was this guy I was told his father was Alan Thicke and then I had the ask who the fuck is that only to be told.....

Anyways, it seemed like they played to about 300 or so devoted fans as the rest of the place emptied out like it was the 7th inning of a Dodgers game.

I enjoyed it a lot. It's fun to hear that material played in general but especially nice when played by musicians who know what they are doing and can really bring it......

It was a mix of stuff including one tune from the second era (Holdsworth band) Lifetime group.

[Stefan Wood]

Just bought this album from Amazon; received in the mail today. Yeah, this is a very good album, though the last three tunes are a bit off, compared to the rest of the album. Not as engaging.

Shows how out of it I am; I had no idea Cindy Blackman married Carlos Santana!

Edited August 22, 2012 by Stefan Wood

[Shawn]

Checked out a couple live performance clips on youtube and this shit RULES!!!!!!

Now I need to get the album.