Harold_Z Posted May 1, 2003 Report Posted May 1, 2003 Interesting sub topic. I don't really hear a close similarity between Bunny and Purvis. Bunny has a fatter sound and has a more relaxed style. I, too, would enjoy hearing the sound alike or disputed tracks. One thing to keep in mind about record dates is that there are a sizeable number of undocumented dates . It's like that now and it was like that 70 and 80 years ago. We'll never know the number of recordings any of these guys played on because they were cranking out every session someone asked them to do...and a LARGE number of those were probably very anonymous sounding although some may have good solos here or there. The final (6th) side of the Time/Life Teschmacher box was comprised of recordings Tesch was suspected of being on. there weren't enough confirmed sides to fill 3 lps. Quote
pryan Posted May 16, 2003 Author Report Posted May 16, 2003 Just broke the bank and put my pre-order in the post. Note to self: Next time a Mosaic comes out where you don't know anything about an artist, do not read a bio on said artist which greatly praises said artist's work. Seriously, though, if Satchmo named Bunny as his favorite trumpeter (as he did in a letter to Downbeat back in the 30s), how much higher praise can one get? Really looking forward to this. Quote
pryan Posted May 21, 2003 Author Report Posted May 21, 2003 Damn, I just checked the 'upcoming releases' page on the Mosaic site and the estimated release date has been pushed back to mid-June. Oh well, it'll be worth the wait, I'm sure. Quote
ghost of miles Posted May 21, 2003 Report Posted May 21, 2003 Yeah, I saw that too. I'm holding off on ordering the Green/Weston Selects until I can throw 'em in with the Berigan and save a couple of bucks on shipping... of course, this gives me more time to "inch" towards including the Krupa/James as well, thereby wreaking fiscal devastation... BUT, I'll save a few bucks on the shipping! Quote
pryan Posted June 11, 2003 Author Report Posted June 11, 2003 Just saw this update on the "upcoming releases" page: "The set is expected to ship on or about June 18th." Not sure if this is "news" or not but I thought I'd post it anyways. I had heard it was supposed to ship on the 16th, but what's another two days, I guess. Quote
BERIGAN Posted June 13, 2003 Report Posted June 13, 2003 Just saw this update on the "upcoming releases" page: "The set is expected to ship on or about June 18th." Not sure if this is "news" or not but I thought I'd post it anyways. I had heard it was supposed to ship on the 16th, but what's another two days, I guess. They keep delaying, and delaying...I want to hear all those crappy vocals, now! Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted June 13, 2003 Report Posted June 13, 2003 Just how much crappy vocals will there be? By the way, didn't Satchmo say Bix was his favorite trumpet player? I know I have seen several people listed as Satchmo's favorite. Quote
BERIGAN Posted June 13, 2003 Report Posted June 13, 2003 Just how much crappy vocals will there be? By the way, didn't Satchmo say Bix was his favorite trumpet player? I know I have seen several people listed as Satchmo's favorite. I shudder to think Mnytime! Hopefully there won't be too many from Irving Kaufman! I will still be getting it, no matter what! I don't know if Louie said that Bix was his favorite, but he might have...there was a 1941 downbeat that had a page with Louis said that his Bunny was the best player, next to himself, of course! He might have been trying to give Bunny a bit of a lift at that time, because things were not going too well physically, or financially at the time,(He died in 1942) but not to take anything away from either of them, they had a true mutual admiration thing going on, in fact, Bunny sat in and played muted trumpet in the background on a few of Louie's Decca recordings in the 30's...this quote was all I could find, sounds like what I recall the article saying as well... I have a scan of the downbeat article somewhere, and if I find it, I will add it... "I've always admired Bunny for his tone, his soul, his technique, and his sense of phrasing....To me, Bunny can do no wrong in music." http://www.riverwalk.org/proglist/showprom...es_of_swing.htm Quote
jazzbo Posted June 13, 2003 Report Posted June 13, 2003 I remember quotes from Pops saying that Bix, and that Bunny and that Bobby Hackett were "favorites". . . I think he liked all three of those cats and many others. Quote
ghost of miles Posted June 16, 2003 Report Posted June 16, 2003 Called Mosaic this morning and they're still saying Wednesday. I've been reading the Berigan bio, which is whetting my appetite for this new set even more. Some sessions that don't show up on it (because they don't fall under its label purview) are the 1934 World transcription sessions Berigan did with "Bill Dodge," who is allegedly Benny Goodman. At least 24 sides were recorded; have these ever shown up on CD? A quick scan of AMG and a couple of online music retail sites failed to yield any evidence that they have. Quote
jazzbo Posted June 16, 2003 Report Posted June 16, 2003 (edited) The excellent "Bill Dodge" transcriptions are in fact in print on cd, on the Circle label by George H. Buck. Edited June 16, 2003 by jazzbo Quote
Brad Posted June 16, 2003 Report Posted June 16, 2003 Are we talking vocals in general or the so-called "crappy" vocals? If it's the former, I took a brief look at the discography on the Mosaic site and there seem to be a looooot of vocals. Since I'm not alway that wild about vocals, I'm not sure this is something I want to plunk some serious change on. Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted June 16, 2003 Report Posted June 16, 2003 Ok all this talk about crappy vocals has me reconsidering picking this one up. I can put up with a few tracks but if there is a lot of it that is another story. Going to have to go and actually check the Mosaic notes on how many tracks have vocals. Unless someone already knows? Quote
ghost of miles Posted June 16, 2003 Report Posted June 16, 2003 The excellent "Bill Dodge" transcriptions are in fact in print on cd, on the Circle label by George H. Buck. Thanks for the lead, Lon--I should've thought of looking under Goodman's name. Will definitely pick these up. Quote
jazzbo Posted June 16, 2003 Report Posted June 16, 2003 Yes, this cd is well worth grabbing; excellent sound, excellent notes, excellent playing! Quote
pryan Posted June 16, 2003 Author Report Posted June 16, 2003 Mny, in no way am I familiar with any of the material on this set (which makes it all the more appealing to me), but I'm pretty sure there are two sessions with Billie Holliday, which may or may not appeal to you. But really, I think the marvellous trumpet work will far outweigh any "crappy" vocals that may be included. Quote
BERIGAN Posted June 16, 2003 Report Posted June 16, 2003 (edited) Everything Lon said Ghost! Bunny plays in such a low register as to almost, almost sound like a trombonist! I think the way the miked, and the mike(s) themselves added to the effect, but very cool! Edited June 16, 2003 by BERIGAN Quote
Out2Lunch Posted June 17, 2003 Report Posted June 17, 2003 Hey Berigan, what's with all the Stephen King special effects? I get sick for a couple days and come back to find this board is turning into a black mass!! Was it something I said? Quote
pryan Posted June 18, 2003 Author Report Posted June 18, 2003 Latest (and strangest) update from the Mosaic site: "The set is expected to ship on or about June 20th. We expected it for the 18th but that was before we found out it was shipped on the wrong truck. Well that takes care of taking off early on Friday. Who said the jazz business is easy? For those who have preordered and have been waiting, we thank you for your patience." - Quote
Out2Lunch Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 They're probably headed for Barcelona, where the boxes will be tinted blue and will be available from the Spanish arm of Time/Life Records. Quote
Brad Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 They're probably headed for Barcelona, where the boxes will be tinted blue and will be available from the Spanish arm of Time/Life Records. He's baaaaack! Quote
Out2Lunch Posted June 18, 2003 Report Posted June 18, 2003 [ He's baaaaack! Yeah but unfortunately a lot worse for the wear! Quote
Brad Posted June 19, 2003 Report Posted June 19, 2003 I was thinking of driving up to Mosaic tomorrow (I live in Jersey) to pick up a copy of the Berigan and the Bennie Green MS so I called and told them that I'd like to do that and I assumed they'd have enough copies around, etc. They checked and said I should call to see if it's come in before I do that. So, I guess there's still some question about it arriving tomorrow. Quote
ghost of miles Posted June 20, 2003 Report Posted June 20, 2003 On the website today: The set has arrived in our warehouse and will begin shipping Friday, June 20th. Now we simply have to hope that a series of disasters does not befall our individual orders... Quote
pryan Posted June 20, 2003 Author Report Posted June 20, 2003 On the website today: The set has arrived in our warehouse and will begin shipping Friday, June 20th. Now we simply have to hope that a series of disasters does not befall our individual orders... No doubt. This is good news, though. This set should be well worth the wait! Quote
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