David Ayers Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Curious about these reissues - any recommendations? http://soundcolourvibration.com/2013/01/01/black-jazz-reissues/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 The Doug and Jean Carn is classic. That is the only "must have" title. I like the Awakening titles and the Rudolph Johnson, but those are for particular tastes only. Johnson is one of those guys like Von Freeman who you either like or he makes you crazy. The Awakening is very 70's spiritual content, not necessarily technically excellent. The Kellie Patterson is pretty weak, the Bishop pretty late in the game, the Russell pretty conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I figured the Doug Carns might be the ones to have - so thanks, that's helpful. Should I get both? I think Infant Eyes is out and Spirit of the New Land is yet to come (there are more titles than are listed at the link I gave...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Yes, both of those are great, as is 'Revelation' if that gets rereleased. Those three albums are the crown jewels of the Black Jazz catalog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Here's what's available through import-cds (16 titles) http://www.importcds.com/Search/Results?type=200&lbl=snow+dog some on this list appear to be more contemporary I've just ordered/received Bishop's "Coral Keys", Carn's "Spirit Of The New Land" & waiting on Franklin's "The Skipper" though havn't had a chance to listen to any of them yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Franklin's The Skipper features the sublime "Theme For Jojo," a personal favorite. I'd like to order a number of these. Maybe next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I like both Awakening CDs.So there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarThrower Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I have The Skipper, and Infant Eyes. I dig both. Good stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) I particularly like the Chester Thompson side, although the trombonist is Not Up To Standard. But then again, if you're listening to any of this Black Jazz stuff strictly as "objective music", then there's a lot wrong with a lot of it. But hey, I grew up In Jazz hearing the late-night (not yet was it nite) radio give me Doug Carn stuff immediately followed by a deep-voiced commercial asking me have I been to Mister G's Motel?, so it's damn near impossible for me to listen to any of this Black Jazz stuff strictly as "objective music". Of course, mileages WILL vary. Still, many flaws and all, this whole thing still makes sense to me as a message that beats anything else being offered these days. If it's imperfect and still needs to be fixed up a lot more to get to where it oughtacould be, oh well. How much in life that is worth doing is NOT like that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9pZoRhRQA4 Edited March 11, 2013 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValerieB Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 The Doug and Jean Carn is classic. That is the only "must have" title. I like the Awakening titles and the Rudolph Johnson, but those are for particular tastes only. Johnson is one of those guys like Von Freeman who you either like or he makes you crazy. The Awakening is very 70's spiritual content, not necessarily technically excellent. The Kellie Patterson is pretty weak, the Bishop pretty late in the game, the Russell pretty conservative. curious as to what that means. he was still in his 40s and playing his butt off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 The Doug and Jean Carn is classic. That is the only "must have" title. I like the Awakening titles and the Rudolph Johnson, but those are for particular tastes only. Johnson is one of those guys like Von Freeman who you either like or he makes you crazy. The Awakening is very 70's spiritual content, not necessarily technically excellent. The Kellie Patterson is pretty weak, the Bishop pretty late in the game, the Russell pretty conservative. curious as to what that means. he was still in his 40s and playing his butt off! I was worried about what Felser said. Is this bunch on the up and up, Val? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 The Doug and Jean Carn is classic. That is the only "must have" title. I like the Awakening titles and the Rudolph Johnson, but those are for particular tastes only. Johnson is one of those guys like Von Freeman who you either like or he makes you crazy. The Awakening is very 70's spiritual content, not necessarily technically excellent. The Kellie Patterson is pretty weak, the Bishop pretty late in the game, the Russell pretty conservative. curious as to what that means. he was still in his 40s and playing his butt off! I haven't heard his Black Jazz recordings in a number of years, did revisit the Muse recordings recently, and they were underwhelming. I remember the Black Jazz sides being much better, but I don't remember them giving me any additional insights into Bishop - that's what I mean by late in the game - he was already pretty well-defined by his earlier recordings. By all means, if you really like Bishop's playing, go for the Black Jazz sides (indeed, every record ever released by that label has merit, and I owned every one of them at one point thanks to Third Street Jazz selling many of them as 99 cent cutouts). But they weren't landmarks the way those three Doug & Jean Carn albums were. I go under the assumption that people have a limited amount of $ to spend, and can't own every worthy album, especially at Japanese import prices. I know I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 The Doug and Jean Carn is classic. That is the only "must have" title. I like the Awakening titles and the Rudolph Johnson, but those are for particular tastes only. Johnson is one of those guys like Von Freeman who you either like or he makes you crazy. The Awakening is very 70's spiritual content, not necessarily technically excellent. The Kellie Patterson is pretty weak, the Bishop pretty late in the game, the Russell pretty conservative. curious as to what that means. he was still in his 40s and playing his butt off! I haven't heard his Black Jazz recordings in a number of years, did revisit the Muse recordings recently, and they were underwhelming. I remember the Black Jazz sides being much better, but I don't remember them giving me any additional insights into Bishop - that's what I mean by late in the game - he was already pretty well-defined by his earlier recordings. By all means, if you really like Bishop's playing, go for the Black Jazz sides (indeed, every record ever released by that label has merit, and I owned every one of them at one point thanks to Third Street Jazz selling many of them as 99 cent cutouts). But they weren't landmarks the way those three Doug & Jean Carn albums were. I go under the assumption that people have a limited amount of $ to spend, and can't own every worthy album, especially at Japanese import prices. I know I can't. In case you didn't know, she was married to him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Amazon UK have the 3 I want most (Bish, Rudy Johnson and Gene RUssell) at pretty reasonable prices (from sellers). If this is an honest company, I'll get them next month. But I wish they'd reissue Rudy Johnson's 'Spring rain' too. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 All indications are that snowbird is leasing legitimately. There was a thread earlier her, somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) he was still in his 40s and playing his butt off! Second that ! In fact, I'll dig out the vinyl of 'Coral Keys' tonight. Edited March 11, 2013 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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