James Moody - Last Train From Overbrook LP question

[mjzee]

Does anyone know the correct sequence of titles on side two of Cadet LPS-637?  The jacket lists side 2 as follows: There She Goes; All The Things You Are; Brother Yusef; Yvonne; The Moody One (False Start); and The Moody One.  On my LP, the first track definitely has a false start and the last track does not.

[Chuck Nessa]

Don't know the original sequence but you would need to check it with an Argo pressing.

[mjzee]

Does anyone here have the Argo pressing?

[kh1958]

Unfortunately not--close, I have Argo 636 and 638, but 637 has somehow eluded me so far.

[mikeweil]

On 18.6.2016 at 0:28 AM, mjzee said:

Does anyone know the correct sequence of titles on side two of Cadet LPS-637?  The jacket lists side 2 as follows: There She Goes; All The Things You Are; Brother Yusef; Yvonne; The Moody One (False Start); and The Moody One.  On my LP, the first track definitely has a false start and the last track does not.

There's a photo of the label of the Japanese LP reissue ((JO8Y-1396) of Cadet LPS-637 in the booklet of the GRP 18102 CD reissue that shows exactly the sequence you listed ...

Here are the track timings, in case that helps - of course I cannot guarantee that the title attributions on the CD are correct  ...

There She Goes 2:22

All The Things You Are 2:05

Brother Yusef 3:07

Yvonne 3:41

The Moody One (False Start); and The Moody One - merged into one track on the CD 3:26

Edited June 22, 2016 by mikeweil

[mjzee]

Thanks for that help, Mike.  I've analyzed side 2 using Amadeus Pro software, and have concluded that, at least for Cadet LPS-637, the actual sequence on side 2 is as follows:

The Moody One (False Start)

The Moody One

Brother Yusef

All The Things You Are

Yvonne

There She Goes.

A false start is a false start, so that's pretty obvious.  Brother Yusef has Moody playing arabic-sounding flute.  ATTYA is self-evident.  The last two are based on matching the timings to both the LP back cover and what Mike posted above.

No idea why they got the sequence wrong.  

[JSngry]

This is an actual LP, correct? Not a burn or other CD form of the LP? Because that would mean either that the labels & back covers have been wrong from the beginning or else that somewhere along the way the B-Side was restamped/repressed with a new track order!

[mjzee]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

This is an actual LP, correct? Not a burn or other CD form of the LP? Because that would mean either that the labels & back covers have been wrong from the beginning or else that somewhere along the way the B-Side was restamped/repressed with a new track order!

This is an actual LP.  Pressing is from the GRT days.  If someone here has the Argo LP, it'd be easy to tell within a minute whether side 2 leads off with a false start.  But I have no idea why anyone would rearrange the order for a later pressing.  Side 1 seems accurate.

[JSngry]

Seems more likely that all the labels and back notes have been wrong from the beginning. That's not unheard of (looking at you, Kind Of Blue).