JSngry Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 (edited) Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis With M.Attenoux isn't it? AMG Edited March 2, 2004 by couw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Thanks, John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Thanks, John! hey, THAT one was EASY! what's up? lost your google skillz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Here's the entry from Lord Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis (ts) acc by Michel Attenoux Orchestra , : Patrick Artero (tp) Claude Gousset (tb) Michel Attenoux (as) Gabriel Garvanoff (p) Jean-Pierre Mulot (B) Teddy Martin (d) Antibes, July 24, 1975 Splanky Mahogany (F)558104 Moonlight in Vermont - Gee baby, ain't I good to you ? - Flying home - What am I here for ? - What's new ? - Midnite blues - Lush life - Shiny stockings - Note: All above titles also on Storyville STCD5009 [CD]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Quoth AMG (Amazing Misinformation Guide): Tenor great Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis teams up with altoist Michel Attenoux (whose sound looks toward Tab Smith and Johnny Hodges) and his French sextet for a hard-swinging set of standards. With fine solos also contributed by trumpeter Patrick Artero and trombonist Claude Gousset, Davis romps on such numbers as Neal Hefti's "Splanky," "Flying Home" and "Shiny Stockings." Excellent modern swing, released for the first time on this 1992 CD. — Scott Yanow Or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Thanks, John! hey, THAT one was EASY! what's up? lost your google skillz? Hey, Google is where I found the image! I just had never heard of the Mahogany label, and didn't realize that it had never been issued until the Storyville CD... Sooooo...let's go to Phase Two: What's the story about the Mahogany label? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 I cannot even reach the pic throug the site it is on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 What's the story about the Mahogany label? right phase two: they changes the look of label and did disco funk albums in 1977: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Hey, Google is where I found the image! so, did you use image search to get the two results, number one the label you posted and number two this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 oh, and number three: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 the Dorothy Donegan on the back has also been released on storyville: AMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Mahogany was a French label that was based on the Riviera. Sort of similar to Black and Blue. They issued half a dozen LP albums in the mid-70s from musicians appearing at the jazz festivals along the Riviera. Then went out of business. Couple interesting dates they produceded were a Vic Dickenson LP 'Gentleman of the Trombone' with Johnny Guarneri, Bill Pemberton and Oliver Jackson and an album entitled 'Jive at Five' with Doc Cheatham, Vic Dickenson, Buddy Tate, Guarneri, George Duvivier, and Oliver Jackson. Couw, doubt very much the NY based Mahogany label had anything to do with the Riviera one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Couw, doubt very much the NY based Mahogany label had anything to do with the Riviera one. ssssstt! don't tell anyone! thanks for your little exposé brownie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 I am in awe. You guys rule! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 This is France taking care of French business B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 AMG on the Dickenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Buddy Tate - Jive at Five Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Buddy Tate - Jive at Five The Mahogany original LP had a different cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 I searched but couldn't find it. There's a small B&W repro on the back of the Lockjaw cover I posted further up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Perhaps this is a good place to ask a question I've wondered about for some time. I've seen other european jazz recordings where the word "orchestra" was used to refer to a smaller group of musicians than I'm accustomed to thinking of as an "orchestra". In fact, I've probably seen the same thing occur on a few american recordings as well, but it seems more prevalent in europe. Is it a matter of language, or custom, or an "inside joke", or am I just confused, or...? My dictionary doesn't give anything more specific than "a group of musicians playing together", but the typical usage would seem to be somewhat different in the U.S. as compared to (for example) France, yes? No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 AFAIK in French (and we're talink about French here) Orchestre means orchestra, but in a more common way may also refer to small groups, a chamber music ensemble for example, or a band. The word band is used in french, but it is an anglicism (AFAIK). Our native french speaking persons will certainly correct me. over to the rest of Europe: In Dutch, Orkest certainly means a large group, probably very similar if not identical to what you'd think about as an orchestra. In German, it's like in dutch. For a small group, there is the archaic word Kapelle, which in Dutch is actually only used for brass bands playing at carneval festivities and the like. In Italian it seems to be that the word orchestre is again used for smaller groups. Maybe it's a roman vs. german language thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Thanks John. I just remembered the thing that first made me start to wonder about this. Years ago, I heard about a rare 1954 (10") Rene Thomas LP (on Barclay, as I understand it) called RENE' THOMAS AND HIS ORCHESTRA. As far as I know, this was a quintet recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 AFAIK in French (and we're talink about French here) Orchestre means orchestra, but in a more common way may also refer to small groups, a chamber music ensemble for example, or a band. The word band is used in french, but it is an anglicism (AFAIK). Our native french speaking persons will certainly correct me. Exactement, Couw. A five-piece band could be introduced either as 'Miles Davis et son quintette' or as 'Miles Davis et son orchestre'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 BTW, somewhat off topic, but that Dickenson date is quite nice. Worth picking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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