medjuck Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 Maybe everybody but me already knew this, but.. Yesterday in response to Andre 2000's new flute album, the LA Times listed what their reviewer called the best "flute-y classics". Number three was California Dreaming of which he wrote "It gets a lot of its witchy allure from Bud Shanks alto flute solo which he reportedly improvised in one take. " And BTW In the number 1 spot, beating out The Beatles, The Beastie Boys and even Lizzo, was Herbie Mann's "One Note Samba". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, medjuck said: And BTW In the number 1 spot, beating out The Beatles, The Beastie Boys and even Lizzo, was Herbie Mann's "One Note Samba". I'm not surprised, as Herbie Mann was one of the first to really get the Brazilian feel, much better than Getz or most others. A compilation with all of Mann's versions of Brazilian tunes would be great. "One Note Samba was originally issued twice, one a Mann LP and on an album with half Joao Gilberto's first bosssa nova tunes, licensed from Odeon in Brazil. An earlier version was on a United Artists LP: Never heard the Shank LP, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted November 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, mikeweil said: I'm not surprised, as Herbie Mann was one of the first to really get the Brazilian feel, much better than Getz or most others. A compilation with all of Mann's versions of Brazilian tunes would be great. "One Note Samba was originally issued twice, one a Mann LP and on an album with half Joao Gilberto's first bosssa nova tunes, licensed from Odeon in Brazil. An earlier version was on a United Artists LP: Never heard the Shank LP, btw. The article is referring to the Mommas and Poppas version on which he takes the flute solo. And it might be claimed that Shank had the first Bossa Nova Lp with Brazilliance which he did with Laurendo Almeida in 1953. (Excuse the probably spelling mistakes.) Edited November 22, 2023 by medjuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, medjuck said: And it might be claimed that Shank had the first Bossa Nova Lp with Brazilliance which he did with Laurendo Almeida in 1953. (Excuse the probably spelling mistakes.) Chronologically, you're correct. But stylistically, the music Almeida and Shank played was not Bossa Nova, but a blend of Choro, Baiao and other semi-classical and folkloric styles. Bossa Nova as such did not exist before the first Jobim-Gilberto recordings. To somebody not familair with all details of Brazilian music, it sounds similar due to the use of guitar, and Almeida, too, played bossa nova later in his career, but not with Shank, as it did not yet exists as a musical style. Edited November 22, 2023 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, mikeweil said: Chronologically, you're correct. But stylistically, the music Almeida and Shank played was not Bossa Nova, but a blend of Choro, Baiao and other semi-classical and folkloric styles. Bossa Nova as such did not exist before the first Jobim-Gilberto recordings. To somebody not familair with all details of Brazilian music, it sounds similar due to the use of guitar, and Almeida, too, played bossa nova later in his career, bur not with Shank, as it did not yet exists as a musicla style. There are some who claim the Braziliance album influenced bossa, as the bossa musicians from that period had their ear to the ground with regard to American jazz. I wasn't there, so I can't say either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 I don't think so. Ruy Castro, e.g. mentions neither Almeida nor Shank. Gilberto's music comes from the Samba Cançao tradition, which was of little importance to Almeida's music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, mikeweil said: I don't think so. Ruy Castro, e.g. mentions neither Almeida nor Shank. Gilberto's music comes from the Samba Cançao tradition, which was of little importance to Almeida's music. I have Castro's book and have read it twice. His lack of a reference does not mean that Brasilian musicians did not hear this record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 Did they? Was that record (Brazilliance) distributed in Brazil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 #65 on the POP charts! #12 on the Easy Listening charts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, mikeweil said: Did they? Was that record (Brazilliance) distributed in Brazil? Even if it wasn't, I'm sure copies made their way there. All those Brazilian kids buying Sinatra and Stan Kenton records were of means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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