First known use of "Downtown" when referring to the NYC avant scene of the late '70s-early '80s?

[JSngry]

35 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

Yeah that's what I mean. It is weird that they weren't playing together more. 

Not weird at all. Social factors and different notions of ultimate musical visions.

Just because you're there doesn't mean you're there.

[T.D.]

I read the Parker biography Universal Tonality (by Cisco Bradley) a few years ago and don't recall many (if any) mentions of Parker playing with white "Downtown" artists. But I read it through interlibrary loan, my recollections can't be trusted, and I don't have it on hand to check. Just requested the book again, so by next week I'll be able to research that issue.

Edited 6 hours ago by T.D.

[clifford_thornton]

Yeah, he did, but it might not be in the book. 

9 hours ago, JSngry said:

Not weird at all. Social factors and different notions of ultimate musical visions.

Just because you're there doesn't mean you're there.

exactly.