medjuck Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I think Miles was still recovering from an illness when the week began. It seems to me his playing gets better in the later discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 A few boots of this band have made it to the "grey market" - Lon had one for sale here recently, and still may. Other tapes have been circulating amongst collectors for years now, and I've been lucky enough to hear some. Let's just say that NO Miles album of the time portrayed the live scene TOTALLY accurately between MILES SMILES and LIVE-EVIL, FILLMORE getting disqualified because of too intense editing. That's a 5-6 year period where Miles' music underwent numerous seizmic shifts, and the records only tell a very, VERY small part of the story of those years., which is a major reason why the PN box was such a revelation. Maybe it's "grey market" but I have a Japanese Sony cd of the "lost quintet" called 1969Miles-Festival de Juan Pins. It's a live recording from Antibes July 25 '69. It includes notes in English. I think I b ought it in Toronto at HMV or Virgin. No reason for Sony not releasing it here. But they probably won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Medjuck, there is a planned release for this eventually together with a second set,see Jazzmatazz-but do not hold your breath waiting. Otherwise, good thread, lots of erudition on show, thanks one and all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 I've been posting a bit too much on this thread, but just wanted to say that I had a surprising rediscovery of the last 12/23 set. (Disc 7.) It's shorter than the other sets but has some of the best playing. It has maybe the best "Stella" of the engagement and the performance of "Yesterdays" (particularly Hancock's solo -- I like how he alludes to "Giant Steps") is terrific. The version of "All Blues" actually reminded of Mingus. And this set also has one of the best "Theme"s in the box. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I've brought these CDs into work today as its the anniversary of the recordings , some great listening ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 I've often wanted to call this set "Live at the Plugged Nickel: The Death of Jazz", because, often after I listen to PN, I ask: "Where could jazz go after this?" -- WOW! *that* has me thinking... , -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 What should I be listening for? Should I be pulling out studio albums and comparing them to particular tracks/discs? --- there's a plie of replies, and long ones at that, that i've not completey read through yet. so unless these two questions haven't been answered yet, i'll take my stab. in *no* way should you be listening to or even thinking about these compositions in their original context, IMHO. this incarnation of the group was completely about taking the known, shared, common and using them as a basis for reinventing the wheel for the common listener via dates like this plugged nickel set. in that sense, this set is not about my funny valentine or walkin' as much as it is the communication, empathy, and abstractions betwixt and between miles, wayne, tony, ron, and herbie. i listen to this set with the same mindset as something by, say, the greateful dead or phish... forgive my crude and hacked reply, but maybe that will help you sort of get your head around a little of the "how to"... in other words, the rules are bent but not broken. cheers, -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 (edited) I just listen to it. And every year, I listen to it in its' entirety on the anniversary of its' recording. Edited December 23, 2004 by GregK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Yup! 39 years... Someone earlier in the thread mentioned the death of jazz (actually meaning the death of the *future* of jazz) with these concerts... My take is so much different. It was very much nearly a birth for me because my mother brought me to one of these concerts in celebration of her 40th birthday back then. She's 79 today! Happy B-Day Mom! your son... --- Now playing: Enrique Granados (1867-1916) - Dance espagnole n° 4, Villanesca you were there? what do you remember? is that you yelling at ron carter during the second set, Dec 22? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 I've really dug into this set over the last couple of days; listening very closely to Tony/Ron interactions. Amazing to hear the the way that Ron's playing put's Tony's ideas in context. He doesn't miss a thing that Tony is doing and still manages to help hold everything together perfectly. Tony was amazing and Ron clearly was his biggest champion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I always thought Wayne did that. I am not a Ron fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I always thought Wayne did that. I am not a Ron fan. Just for fun I sometimes file this box under Shorter. Though I haven't done it since I joined this board, as now there are too many discs in-between to move around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I always thought Wayne did that. I'm sure he did as well. That's the wonderful thing about this set. Much to be revealed with each each subsequent listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I seem to be the only one who likes disc 7. Not necessarily the best and certainly short, but very mellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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