ASNL77 Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 (edited) I only joined this forum a few weeks ago and I am pretty sure you must have discussed this before but I did not you know at at the time! .I have read a few negative posts in several threads regarding these japanese reissues.What do you generally think of them? I have only got a few and I must say I am very impressed with the quality of the sound.I also like the lp style sleeve. Am I the only one to like these reissues????. Edited November 9, 2004 by ASNL77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 You're not the only one! I like this series a lot. . . I have quite a few. I enjoy the sound and the packaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 welcome to the forum!! (i wanted to say that before chuck welcomes you! ) i think the quality of the JRVG's is pretty darn good! B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 (edited) I also like JRVGs though no reversal of polarity is necessary for them to sound very nice to my ears. I know, you're thinking what? I'll leave it to others to clue you in. B-) Edited November 9, 2004 by Dan Gould Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASNL77 Posted November 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I also like JRVGs though no reversal of polarity is necessary for them to sound very nice to my ears. I know, you're thinking what? I'll leave it to others to clue you in. B-) what??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Okay, the short version: on a board in a galaxy far away (called the Blue Note bulletin board in the galaxy of We Can't Get No Respect) it was revealed by a poster who has a decided audophile bent (and a pugnacious nature) that by reversing the polarity of the playback of most JRVGs (that is changing the + and - leads at just one end of the speaker cables, either the amp or speaker but not both) yields a more natural sound. I have been doing this for years now when playing back most every JRVG and in fact some of the early domestic RVG cds, and I agree with this. Others have expressed scorn, ambivalence, and other emotional responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 this whole reversing polarity thing for me only really showed effect with the Parlan Spur of the Moment conn, going from really dull to truly lively. Of course I am a lazy sod and have not tried this trick very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I like 'em too. I admit to not being much of a polarity reverser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I've tried this too (I thought it was Lon's suggestion originally) but I have been lazy to change it back. At any rate, JRVGs by and large tend to be good although there are a few clunkers like Blakey's Night in Tunisia. However, I think the US RVGs are good too so I wouldn't go out and blow a big wad if you can get the US ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with the Golden Arm Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Below is a graphic illustrating this pole reversal: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 That's what I find so fascinating about the JRVG and to an extent the RVG series. . .. I really LIKE the Night in Tunisia! And a number of others that get panned, and some of those I like least are sometimes touted as sonic spectaculars! Ah, the subjective world of audio reproduction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASNL77 Posted November 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 (edited) That's what I find so fascinating about the JRVG and to an extent the RVG series. . .. I really LIKE the Night in Tunisia! And a number of others that get panned, and some of those I like least are sometimes touted as sonic spectaculars! Ah, the subjective world of audio reproduction! Thanks for your posts.Come on go for it ,what are the ones you don't like so that I don't waste my money.I have Hi Voltage, Green Street and Trompeta Toccata among others and they are fantastic! Edited November 9, 2004 by ASNL77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I only have very few. One I particularly like is Parlan - Speakin' MY Piece. But this may have more to do with the music than the "JRVG banner." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASNL77 Posted November 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I only have very few. One I particularly like is Parlan - Speakin' MY Piece. But this may have more to do with the music than the "JRVG banner." I have 'Happy frame of mind' and it is very good too.I am not convinced by Movin and Groovin'.I find it a bit disappointing but again, the sound is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I really like the mini-LP covers, ASNL, and wish that I could get one for each BN album. When they did Herbie Hancock's "Speak Like A Child", the mini-LP concept even extended to their doing it in gatefold, just like the original. That one is terrific. I also like the sound on it. Other great-sounding JRVGs (to me) are the first four Jackie McLean albums, Tony Williams' "Spring", and Sonny Clark's "Leapin' And Lopin'". I have played all of these many times, and really like them. Generally, though, my favorite BN CDs are the "Blue Note Works" series, called TOCJs since the days of that galaxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I like most every one that I've heard. I've sortof pledged myself to not get too involved with remastering and sonic issues etc. My system now seems to let me enjoy earlier remasterings more than previous incarnations have and I just sort of have fallen out of the habit of keeping track of what is great and what isn't and I honestly don't want to backpedal my way back there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 That's the way to go, Lon. There are just too many CDs out there in several different versions, and one can't spend all of one's time tabulating what's "best" (note the quotes there). I don't think I've heard very many CDs that really stank. And, don't tell anyone, but the difference between vinyl and CD is not all that huge for me. (Yes, there is a difference, but can you concentrate on it all the time?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 I am an RVG fan, US issues or JRVGs, but he has his bad days and I find more of them in the earlier JRVG issues. The US ones are almost universally fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 The JRVGs are typically a lot more expensive than the RVGs. In time, I suspect most fo the JRVGs will find their way to US editions, at a lower price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 The JRVGs are typically a lot more expensive than the RVGs. In time, I suspect most fo the JRVGs will find their way to US editions, at a lower price. If they show up here they will be redone. None of the JRVGs that were issued there first have been issued in the US without them being remastered. Now the Japanese are putting out the US versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Okay, the short version: on a board in a galaxy far away (called the Blue Note bulletin board in the galaxy of We Can't Get No Respect) it was revealed by a poster who has a decided audophile bent (and a pugnacious nature) that by reversing the polarity of the playback of most JRVGs (that is changing the + and - leads at just one end of the speaker cables, either the amp or speaker but not both) yields a more natural sound. I have been doing this for years now when playing back most every JRVG and in fact some of the early domestic RVG cds, and I agree with this. Others have expressed scorn, ambivalence, and other emotional responses. Actually, after extensive research and experimentation, I have discovered that if you place the + speaker wire into your left pocket and then insert the - wire into your mouth, the sound appears to come across in a more lively fashion... I would have published this discovery earlier but feared the likely reaction from the said pugnacious poster.... -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 I'm a fan of both domestic RVGs and JRVgs; in fact, I upgrade whenever possible to these formats. Can't say I'm crazy about the cardboard covers. It's hard to slip those cds into those soft plastic inner sleeves while driving 70 mph on the highway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Come on go for it ,what are the ones you don't like so that I don't waste my money. I wouldn't mind hearing of the "bad ones" as well. Others have posted the deficiencies of Jackie Mclean, "Demon's Dance" and Jack Wilson, "Easterly Winds," but both sound fine to me. Most of them are huge improvements over the old masterings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 The JRVGs are typically a lot more expensive than the RVGs. In time, I suspect most fo the JRVGs will find their way to US editions, at a lower price. If they show up here they will be redone. None of the JRVGs that were issued there first have been issued in the US without them being remastered. Now the Japanese are putting out the US versions. I remember we had this discussion some time ago I thought Kevin Bresnahan came across with some info that the US RVGs are from the same masters as the JRVGs. It's also possible I am suffering from severe brain fade In the interim, until further clarification on this issue is forthcoming, I will defer to Mr. Nessa In any event, my essential point still holds-- you get more bang for the buck with the RVGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 (edited) I thought Kevin Bresnahan came across with some info that the US RVGs are from the same masters as the JRVGs. It's also possible I am suffering from severe brain fade In the interim, until further clarification on this issue is forthcoming, I will defer to Mr. Nessa Kevin stated a bunch of stuff that was obvious to some of us (he even asked MC to contact me). B-) In 2001, with a series of Japanese doubles (Monk, Bud, etc) Toshiba began sharing US RVG masterings. I think I had implied that earlier. edit to correct a typo. Edited November 10, 2004 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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