birdanddizzy Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Take a look to the Universal website Release date 5 december 2005 (Monday) --Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Link doesn't work for me. Is this a French thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Funny, the link worked for me (sloowwwlyyy), and I'm on a dial-up connection, with an iMac DV Special Edition running system 9.0. Looks interesting, though I have to admit that I was underwhelmed by the previous Jazz in Paris Coleman disc From Boogie to Funk, recorded in 1960. The French Universal website had no recording date for these Phillips dates, as far as I could tell, but the track list from the site says 1950s at the earliest to me. Here it is : Jumpin' at Pleyel AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Bill Coleman / Jean-Pierre Sasson 2 mn 34 s 2 Si jolie AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Eddy Marnay / Philippe Gerard 3 mn 06 s 3 The blues jumped out and got me INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Bill Coleman / Jack Hoffman 2 mn 50 s 4 I'm coming Virginia AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Donald Heywood / Will Marion Cook 2 mn 56 s 5 Come on a' my house INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ross Bagdasarian / Adam Bagdasarian / William Saroyan 3 mn 21 s 6 Tenderly AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jack Lawrence / Lawrence / Walter Gross 3 mn 06 s 7 Knucklehead AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Dicky Wells / Bill Coleman 3 mn 28 s 8 Baby wont you please come home INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Clarence Williams / Charles Warfield 5 mn 03 s 9 One o'clock jump AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Count Basie 5 mn 03 s 10 Perdido AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Juan Tizol / Hans Lengsfelder / Ervin Drake 3 mn 14 s 11 When the saints go marching in INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Traditional 2 mn 24 s 12 Ghost of a chance AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Bing Crosby / Ned Washington / V Young 4 mn 28 s 13 Basin street blues INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Spencer Williams 5 mn 02 s 14 Lover man INTERPRETE VOCAL : Miriam Burton AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Roger Ramirez / James Sherman 3 mn 03 s 15 Summertime INTERPRETE VOCAL : Miriam Burton AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : George Gershwin / Dubose B. Heyward 1 mn 57 s 16 Jumpin with Symphony Sid AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : George Gershwin / Dubose B. Heyward 1 mn 52 s 17 Trombone blues AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Clarence Williams / Tom Nixon 1 mn 36 s 18 St James infirmary INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Irving Mills 4 mn 43 s 19 Sheik of Araby AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Harry B. Smith / Ted Snyder / Francis Wheeler 3 mn 09 s DUREE TOTALE62 mn 55 s The Complete Philips Recordings CD 2 1 Red top AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Lionel Hampton / Ben Kynard 3 mn 58 s 2 Royal garden blues AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Spencer Williams / Clarence Williams 3 mn 44 s 3 Solitude AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Duke Ellington / Irving Mills / Eddie Delange 5 mn 10 s 4 Tea for two AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Vincent Youmans / Irving Caesar 3 mn 12 s 5 Chinatown AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jean Schwartz / William Jerome 1 mn 50 s 6 Drum face AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Zutty Singleton 4 mn 53 s 7 Muskrat ramble AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ray Gilbert / Kid Ory 3 mn 25 s 8 Black and blue AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Andy Razaf / Harry Brooks / Fats Waller 3 mn 48 s 9 Idaho AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jesse Stone 4 mn 53 s 10 Out of nowhere AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : John Green / Edward Heyman 3 mn 53 s 11 Indiana INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James F Hanley / Ballard Macdonald 3 mn 16 s 12 Saint Louis blues INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : William Christopher Handy 7 mn 04 s 13 Jumpin' at Pleyel AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Bill Coleman 2 mn 35 s 14 Si jolie INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Eddy Marnay / Philippe Gerard 3 mn 11 s 15 The blues jumped up and got me INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Bill Coleman / Jack Hoffman 2 mn 51 s 16 The blues jumped up and got me INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Bill Coleman / Jack Hoffman 2 mn 50 s 17 Come on a' my house INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ross Bagdasarian / Adam Bagdasarian / William Saroyan 3 mn 19 s 18 Come on a' my house AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ross Bagdasarian / Adam Bagdasarian / William Saroyan 3 mn 15 s 19 Tenderly AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jack Lawrence / Walter Gross 3 mn 06 s DUREE TOTALE 70 mn 13 s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 The first six sides of the Bill Coleman Jazz In Paris are from a 1951 studio session with Jay Cameron on alto, Art Simmons on piano, Dave Pochonet on drums and others. These were issued on 78RPM discs and never reappeared. Most of the rest comes from an October 1952 concert at Salle Pleyel with - among others - Dicky Wells, Guy Lafitte and Zutty Singleton. The concert was released on two hard-to-find 10inchers. Got battered copies of these two (for something like one euro each!). Nice concert (with a very enthusiasted audience). Will be glad to listen to these in new sound! Another link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 There's another double CD coming out as part of the Jazz In Paris series! A reissue of rare albums from the neglected French tenor saxophonist Jean-Claude Fohrenbach: Fohrenbach French Sound The link does not provide informations on who's playing in. The Lord has no personnel listed except for four sides with the Georges Arvanitas Trio (Jacky Samson on bass, Charles Saudrais on drums) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 With these two, my JiP collection is inching towards a new shelf, the old 80cm one not being enough anymore. I hope they keep it going long enough to fill another shelf. I've discovered tons of wonderful music via this series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdanddizzy Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 There's another double CD coming out as part of the Jazz In Paris series! A reissue of rare albums from the neglected French tenor saxophonist Jean-Claude Fohrenbach: Fohrenbach French Sound The link does not provide informations on who's playing in. The Lord has no personnel listed except for four sides with the Georges Arvanitas Trio (Jacky Samson on bass, Charles Saudrais on drums) There are extracts on the Fnac website : click here This album seems to be in stores since november ? Will verify today! Have a nice day! Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Maybe covered elswhere but what is volume 1 in this series? (Coleman is 2 and Jean-Claude Fohrenbach is 3 so there must be a 1 as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Maybe covered elswhere but what is volume 1 in this series? (Coleman is 2 and Jean-Claude Fohrenbach is 3 so there must be a 1 as well). Sasha Distel Jazz Guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdanddizzy Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 I've bought the two sets yesterday (saturday 3rd) in a Fnac store in Paris. I join the back covers for the details Bill Coleman - "The complete Philips recordings" The sound is just amazing, as always ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdanddizzy Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Jean-Claude Fohrenbach - Fohrenbach French Sound personnal details for CD2 : JC F. "Sexfide" [06-09] Roger Guérin, Bernard Vitet : trumpet, bugle JC Fohrenbach : tenor sax Pierre Cullaz : guitar Bibi Rovère : double bass Jean-Louis Viale : drums JC F. & Géo Daly [10] JC F. = tenor sax, organ Géo Daly = vibraphone Jacques B. Hess : double bass Franco Manzecchi : drums Bonus track [14] Ivan Jullien : trumpet Marc Steckar : trombone JC F. : tenor sax poss. Jean Vasse : double bass Claude Vaillant : drums Really interesting tenor sax and talented arranger, he is "an eternally marginal figure in the French jazz landscape" (Alain Tercinet). Early 1952, France discovered West Coast musicians like Getz, Warne Marsh, and Jimmy Giuffre. JC Fohrenbach said : "Aha! At last, guys who play like me!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 These two sets are listed for less than 12€ on French Amazon! Quite a steal! I'll give this a try - they still are listed with only today as release date and it says delivery before x-mas is not possible... that should probably change as soon as they're actually out? Added that Django one that came late... that one, too, is listed as 2-3 weeks delivery... is it gone already? Is that one so rare? Sold that badly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Do you mean Django in Belgium? Or whatever it was called, it was numbered 102. I didn't have any trouble ordering one, but that was a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Do you mean Django in Belgium? Or whatever it was called, it was numbered 102. I didn't have any trouble ordering one, but that was a while ago. Yes, "Place de Brouckère" or however exactly it's called. Missed out on that one till now! Hope it will come through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 anything from that era with Dickey Wells is especially precious, though Coleman's best work was done in the 1930s - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjobbe Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) ... Yes, "Place de Brouckère" or however exactly it's called. Missed out on that one till now! Hope it will come through! it should be part of that 5CD box called Jazz in Belgium (EDIT: the correct title is "From Belgium With Love"). I nearly grabbed it at St. Lazare Fnac recently but put it back on the shelf. Its priced ca. 40€ HERE Cheers, Tjobbe Edited December 5, 2005 by tjobbe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 ... Yes, "Place de Brouckère" or however exactly it's called. Missed out on that one till now! Hope it will come through! it should be part of that 5CD box called Jazz in Belgium. I nearly grabbed it at St. Lazare Fnac recently but put it back on the shelf. Its priced ca. 40€ HERE Cheers, Tjobbe I know this was discussed, but being at work.... besides the Django, is the stuff in that set part of other single JiP discs, or is that a set to go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjobbe Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) ja Königliche Dingsbums, they are all avaliable as single JiT's as well (but not sure if they are all in stock) The french universal side list the 5-fer here: http://www.universalmusic.fr/servlet/Front...0249818020&cd=1 ) Cheers, Tjobbe Edited December 5, 2005 by tjobbe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 ja Königliche Dingsbums, they are all avaliable as single JiT's Cheers, Tjobbe Thanks! So I won't need it since I have all the others (with a couple of exceptions - things I have in other form, like the Pres, Ascenseur...). I really hope the Django comes through, then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 I've discovered tons of wonderful music via this series. You can say that again! anything from that era with Dickey Wells is especially precious, though Coleman's best work was done in the 1930s - Love the Coleman/Wells sides myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) absoutely - it's just that Dickey's playing in the years after the 1930s Paris recordings was inconsistent - moments of brilliance, but a lot of musical drifting. Clearly related to personal stuff, and than, later on, he was beaten and left for dead. He survived the attack but was never the same. I knew him in the last 5 years of his life, when he was still capable of some great playing, but was lonely and basically had just given up on life. Edited December 6, 2005 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Dusty Groove indicates that it's delayed but hopefully they'll have it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Of the on-line stores, I think amazon.fr currently has the lowest prices. However, fnac.com does have 30 second samples of all tracks for both these releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 I ordered them from Amazon.fr and got a message about a delay until early January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjobbe Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Of the on-line stores, I think amazon.fr currently has the lowest prices. However, fnac.com does have 30 second samples of all tracks for both these releases. has anyone ordered directly from the universal france shop so far ? They seem to sell the 2-fers for 11€ and-something as well as the single JiP for 6€ plus some resonable flat shipping above certain weight to al EU countries. (Although the Fohrenbach is not yet listed but the Coleman is) Cheers, Tjobbe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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