Chuck Nessa

Sorry, but there are at least 8 I would play before this. It is a very good record though.

I voted for Compulsion.

I think this book claiming a small bit of US jazz history for Canada might be ignored because the Star Spangled Banner was booed at a hockey game in Montreal. Take that, you wannabes!

Ok. Universal has already Jobbed us.

They dropped this project because of Martha Glazer (sp?), guardian of the estate. She is a real pain in the ass as I can attest. Someday I will tell the story.

Of Love and Peace gets my vote, just before Contrasts. I think Mother Ship's rep is exaggerated by those who've never heard it. Nothing really wrong with it, just overpraised IMHO. It would'a been a whole lot better with a tenor added - like Tyrone. One other factor is, I'm not a big fan of Eddie Gladden. I don't care if he is from Newark.

Etc. got my vote. I thought for a while and decided I liked all the records with Joe Chambers more than the others.

Unissued Hill dates: 2/10/67 Robin Kenyatta, Sam Rivers, Cecil McBee, Teddy Robinson, Nadi Qumar 5 pieces 5/17/67 trio w/Ron Carter, Teddy Robinson 6 pieces - known as Chained 10/31/67 Woody Shaw, Kenyatta, Rivers, Howard Johnson, Herbie Lewis, Robinson 5 pieces 6/13/69 Carlos Garnett, Karl Porter (bassoon), Richard Davis, Freddie Waits, Sanford Allen (vocal) + string quartet 3 pieces 11/7 + 14/69 Woody Shaw, Dizzy Reece, Julian Priester, Bob Northern, Howard Johnson, Joe Farrell, Ron Carter, Lenny White proposed new release - 7 pieces

Just to make it personal: Roscoe, Bowie, Muhal, Braxton, Threadgill, Favors, Warne, Jarman, Von, Lucky, Bradford, Wadada, Mars, etc.

BUT, David needs to learn to spell EMANEM. Martin started this label with his wife Madelyn (sp) and the name is from M&M. I just found a catalog from an early lp, asking for a payment of 2.55 pounds. The reverse reprints a piece by Stanley Crouch praising Bobby Bradford.

This is a wonderful history of a portion of music history. Thanks for posting the link. I would not have found it if I wasn't bored. Anyone interested in the current version of the "avant garde" should read this piece. Thanks, Chuck

From your vantage point you misunderstand viewpoints at the time. The "avant garde" was strong and thrived throughout the '70s. Most of the fusion stuff ran in parallel, having little effect on "a-g". The greatest fusion influence was on hard boppers trying to "update" their sound to get an audience back. Murray was one of a number of newer voices getting attention in the mid '70s. For example, Air made their first recording in late '75. and the Hat Hut and Black Saint labels were just starting. "Avant garde" didn't begin to fade "as a commercial entity" until the wave of "Reagan conservatism" swept the country. Damn right wing sheep.

The original "musical" obis were not spine covers but a "strap" wrapped around the record jacket - much more like the clothing item than the current cd incarnation.

Chance for a gig at the Public Theater. Musicians take work where they can find it.

I regret the use of the word 'fake', but I said I was tired. Like many others at the time I felt Murray had a promising future when he first appeared on the scene. It seems to me that after a year or two in the 'big leagues' he saw the writing on the wall and when he had to make a choice between public acclaim and music, he made the easy choice too many times. David is a serious musician and from my personal experience a 'nice guy'. BUT I hold 'artists' to a higher standard. This probably makes me an elitist, but that's ok. As a personal point of reference, when I dumped my lps I had about a dozen Murray sides. Now with around 3000 jazz cds, I don't have any. I probably would have a few if I had money, but I don't. He always hires good guys to play with. I have no problem with other people loving his music. It is not bad, just not what I wanted. Communication is a very personal thing.

Impusle was always a subsidiary of ABC Paramount, or ABC as they later changed it. Goldmine's differentiation concerns logos and label designs. At some point in the '70s the artwork changed to ABC Impulse. An "original" of Golden Flute will have a glossy laminated cover and an orange label with a black outer circle.

This is a very serious question, and one I'm not now willing to expend much energy on tonight. Sorry 'bout that, but if I don't come back tomorrow with a response, e-mail me at cnessa@earthlink.net. By the way, I think Murray is a fake.

I think plumbers in Cleveland know where Jimmy Hoffa resides.

Jim's ok. He's had some personal problems like a washing machine pipe breaking and flooding his house, etc. He has also taken a "day gig" which limits his time. He will be back.

I bought the 2 RVG remasters, and after listening dumped the previous versions. I think all Lundvalls eminate from Bruce and Milwaukee.

Mike, if you are researching '60s Gillespie stuff, I attended a concert at Grinnell College in the Fall of '62. The band was Moody, Schifrin, White and Collins. They were on the way to the West Coast, and Lalo told me he was leaving the group. I have some blurry photos somewhere. Diz was paid $2500 in cash. I watched the transaction. He sat on a bench in the gym dressing room counting the money. He looked up at me while counting and said "Even college boys will steal money, right".

Florence is one of those musicians who seduce me by a track every 10 years or so, and when I investigate further I recoil in horror.

Quoting the cd liners " Many of the musicians who recorded Gillespiana in November reconvened the following March to launch Schifrin's suite at Carnegie Hall." With the studio version safely in the can, it is easy to imagine Verve saving money by taking a pass on the suite. I know the author is John McDonough, but his editor was Peter Pullman. Maybe PP can help sort it out. I think I have a DownBeat with the concert review somewhere, but it would take a couple of months to locate it.

I think I was the guy behind the counter, playing the record when this happened.

That's maybe half of it. I sold over 10,000 lps to finance the Art Ensemble Box, so it seems kinda small to me.