funny to see that this is still going on, though I've gotten a little lost in the various suggestions, comments, etc. I won't go into detail now, but I liked Cline's Interstellar Space, probably because it's so much more focused than when I heard him in person. I'm looking back at this whole thread and Clem, though calling me a "douche," actually has a lot to say of importance as does Steve and quite a few others here, though I gotta admit I feel helpless at times as I'm not as familiar with a lot of this music as I think I should be. My problem has been over-saturation, performing and writing for years and than getting so heavily into the old stuff (and trying NOT to end up intellectually, like Greil Marcus, but that's another topic for another day)- that I've become a little worn out with new music, and sometimes that old hillbilly and country (black and white) is the perfect antidote to modernist overload. Add a day job and it gets even harder to keep up. On the other hand this thread was something of a wakeup call to me to get back on the stick and listen to more contemporary musc. Try as I might, it's a problem up here in Maine where there's a good alternative station but not a like of real new music/jazz on it. Oh well, I will probably print this whole thing out and make it my 2006 project.
I think the formalism issue is real, and not just among music people; I was watching the Ovation channel on TV the other day and they have a regular contemporary arts show, and it struck me how mastubatory so much of it is - bad art with smart rationalization, great theory, mediocre practice, but than I don't suppose this is really new in the scheme of things; I do believe, thinking of publications like Signals to Noise and Wire (both of which I read and enjoy) that we have produced a post-modernist generation that talks the talk better than they walk the actual walk. This may be related, as well, to a larger problem of a post-literate generation that has really neglected history (and I ain't talking about GREAT BOOKS history but Harold Rosenberg, Richard Gilman, Beckett, Isaac Rosenfeld, Isaac Babel, Peter Handke, to name just a few of major modernist impact on me) - and that has learned the symbols but not enough of the substance. Same is true of American music - ignore Wynton's middle class crap about why you should know music history (because it's GOOD for you) and listen instead becasue there's so much amazing music that's been almost forgotten. Listen for the same reason that I should listen, as Clem Says, to Davey Graham or, as Steve says, to Keith Rowe -