AllenLowe

in terms of early films and the slowness of exposition - I think you'll find that a lot of early movies are very much caught in the rhythms of the theater of the time - and a lot of the actors were out of the theatrical tradtion (especially as a lot of these movies were shot at Astoria in NYC) - many of the scenes use static camera work, and, you are right, the idea of editing and cutting was still in its infant stages (though some were technically far in advance, like DW Griffith and than, a little later, Renoir) -

I will add that the Fuehrer remark was not intended to offend but to refer to that other thread -

Chaney: you write: "I made the decision, as a member of this board, that Denny was deserving of a tribute thread and who exactly are you to question my decision? Get over yourself, Mr. Lowe." (italics mine) - you post this - and tell ME to get over MYSELF? This is somewhat confusing, as I was of the impression that this board allows freedom of expression -

yes, it is odd -

and in case you STILL don't get it, my references are NOT an attack on the German people but on CHE -

and now you tell me there is no objective way to decide what's good music? Fine, get out the Mantovani records -

lighten up guys and start reading posts other than your own - Che's the one who has equated Nazism and Zionism, one of the most offensive things I have ever read on an internet board, and something for which he deserves to be reviled (interesting that you're more offended by my dissing Martin Denny than you are by Che's anti-semitism). That was my reference, so wake up, please - there is nothing gratuitous about attacking someone's biases -

what was dishonest about it? The honesty was that I could not really understand why he deserved praise on a site that honors good music and that I responded to this - but if it is the will of the people I will, from herein, refrain from commenting in memorial posts - and this includes Che's annual singing of happy birthday to Der Fuehrer -

well, not really sure what buzz I killed, but I'm sure someone will post an obit about it -

geez, I'm reading back through the thread and am somewhat amazed that I set off such a storm; Martin Denny was, in my opinion, just an easy listening phenomenon. I have no more reason to praise him in death than I would Donny Osmond. This is a music board and we make musical judgements, or at least I thought. Denny is just not, IMHO, worthy of musical respect. If you disagreee that's fine. Let's talk about the music and not the fact that I don't like it - what Couw said about me pissing is MUCH nastier than anything I wrote -

I called Denny a hack - which he was. Dead or alive, he deserves an honest appraisal. Let's grow up and learn to live with opinions that are not our own - the nastiness I see on this board arises mostly (IMHO) when people don't know how to disagree in a reasoned manner and so get snide (as in suggesting I'm a pisser who should wear diapers - this is a vey mature and un-nasty response) -

sorry - spell check doesn't cover German -

I am defining blues as the harmonic movement of of 1-4-1, 5-4-1; anything else is really pre-blues or more cause than effect - the blues is, very specifically, that progression, and had a lot of African American antecedents, which we should not refer to as the blues, as they influenced the development of the blues and not the other way around - what people often refer to as "blues feeling" is really a reference to older African American methods of pitch and rhythm - which have influenced musicians with little specific "blues" feeling (eg. Coleman Hawkins).

sorry, no proof of that - as I said the earliest BLUES we have are commercial (and not Tin Pan Alley, but the work of professional songwriters) - eg, the verse to Bill Bailey, which was written in a blues format; also a commercial recording from about 1912; also a report of a medicine show blues, but that report may not be reliable. AND, Gus Haenschen recorded a blues in 1916 (he was a commercial pianist). Delta-wise we hear nothing until the 1920s; we have reports of blues-like couplets, but no idea if they were sung in a blues form. So unless you have new evidence, there is nothing to back up what you are saying - the early, pre-blues African American formats we know of are more likely repeated, single-chord songs (similar to some John Lee Hooker things).

hey - I just bought a Dearomnd X-155; finally a hollow body that doesn't drive me crazy. It's in the shop getting new pickups installed -

actually, I think Kenny G made a few Soundies - he's older (but not any dumber) than he looks -

"The blues is black American folk music." actually there is no proof of this, and the earliest blues performances/songs we have are tin-Pan alley related, commercial performances. Now, it is very possible that their intial sources were "folk," but we do not really know this for a fact - an equally plausible theory is that the blues was a commercial development of folk sources, a professional codification of black song -

lots of Jelly Roll Morton has folk sources - listen to the Library of Congress/Lomax recordings in which he delineates, with fascinating detail, the connections -

you have to define true folk music - one of the beter definitions is music that does not rely upon professional dissemination - but even with that, this is a very complicated topic, as many things thought of as folk sources have turned out to be related to things seen as non-folk - from professional songwriters, minstrelsy, etc. However, for a good idea of how well folk sources can be used by a jazz composer, look at some of Lars Gullin's work -

WEENER ALERT WEENER ALERT - Ok, ok, enough about that - the best Maini, IMHO, is on the various Terry Gibbs big band "live" dates; he is at his peak, searching, rhythmically subtle, incredible soul -he also plays well on the Mingus date for Debut with Knepper/Mingus/Triglia/Richmond -

actually, send them enough money and Bob Rusch will come to your house and clean 'em for you -

3 Cd's: Ray Charles/Betty Carter - on Castle Classics, a reissue - has a few extra tracks listed as "Plus: Ray Charles Sings." Used, in excellent condition - $6.00 shipped. Brubeck Plays Brubeck - solo piano 1956, Columbia/Legacy CD. Still in the original packing, opened. Mint condition. $6.00 shipped. Scott Joplin: His Complete Works. Performed by Richard Zimmerman, piano. Excellent stuff, still sealed. 4 CDs. $16 shipped. all shipping is First Class US mail - I take paypal, check, money order. Email me directly at: alowe@maine.rr.com

I use the solution that came with the machine - I bought this from Mark at North Country Audio - as for t-shirts, best to use a greasy, sweaty one in August -

my question would be - if he had criminal intent, than where are all the Ray Charles bootlesgs made from the stuff? This may, indeed, be the beginning of the family starting to fight over the assets of the estate - shades of Hendrix -

I think it's the other - but the way I always heard it described was that he draped it over the bell of the horn - which does not appear to be the case -