The times I'm speaking of were around 1960 - in Leeds. A lot of London bands visited. Tony Kinsey was a frequent visitor. It's only recently that I found out he'd gone to the States with Ronnie Ball but, unlike Ronnie, failed to make it and returned. He and Ganley were very accomplished drummers. Joe Harriott is another sideman who comes to mind. I remember talking with him both in Leeds and Manchester.