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Correct! Different time period. Correct. This one has been ID'd twice, now. THAT is a surprise to me. I will share this thought with the tenor player. No doubt he will be pleased. Not Larry. That creaky piano could be a clue, though. Correct! DEAR ORGANISSIMO FORUM, PLEASE STOP COMBINING MY POSTS! I'M A BIG BOY WITH A CERTAIN DEGREE OF TECH SAVVY; IF I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN, I WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN. THAT IS ALL. Ding! Ding! Correct. Hence the remark about the "creaky piano".

Ditto. And/or you can just keep me as the alternate. MG, I put you down for April, 2013. Thom, you're already down for August of this year. √. Forgot about that. (CRS setting in hard) Jeff, this was the message that had me thinking April, 2013. August 2013 is fine. As usual, in a pinch, I can always swap that to sub for a compiler unable to fulfill the need. To be honest, it's easier for me to compile September-through-June than to participate, but I'll always take whatever.

Not Billy. I see where the writing might take you down that direction, but this is a bit more out than BH. Another one that's going to surprise you. No JC on this BFT (though I considered it). People are going to either nail this one or be confused by it. It's a required recording from the period, IMHO, and the best recording of the tenor player, by far. This guy is one of the great unsung people in this music, and he should be a household name. Absolutely swings, always. You're going to want this one, but good luck finding it. Ding! Ding!

Ding! Ding! I did not, but you're correct. webbcity has ID'd this cut. Correct, a private recording and it IS Oliver Lake. This is maybe a hair outside of what you think of for this pianist, but only because of the way our minds seem to classify such things. It IS Clifford and you've really nailed where this recording fits. It's not a great record, but a really enjoyable one nonetheless. Correct! ID'd in the next post. Not Ricky. Negative. ID'd by two listeners thus far.

Well, yes... and no. It actually NOT Don't Stop The Carnival, but as we both know, it sure as hell is. This actually predates my earliest recording of the tune by Newk by a year. That's a hint. Spot on with Billy, but not the rest. Correct. Reasonably certain only you would get this. Eh, could be... Nope. Thought sure you'd nail the alto, and DEFINITELY should have nailed the tenor. You're going to be surprised by this one. It IS a great tune, and it IS Ron Carter. You're going to be shocked when you find out who this one is. And you WILL need to have it. Not sure if you know this guy, but he's definitely a guy who will maintain your interest. This is a sleeper cut. Gah! Stupid limitations on blocks of text. I'll post the rest of my responses to your responses later.

Jeff, I'm willing to defer my April spot and move to the end of the line so that webbcity can have a slot before he qualifies for AARP. Just let me know.

Yes, but in my mind, it'll always be the first track from here, an album I purchased for 88¢ at Looney Tunes in Boston. Also, in a private conversation, webbcity ID'd that and another song, but he's being shy... or just saving up for a one-shot post.

I have that JCO record -- shame on me. I clearly don't have the DiNovi record - shame on me again. And lastly, I have the Tucker cut on the Moody album... I need to go hide my head in deep sand.

Sorry for the delay, folks. I was away for part of the weekend and didn't want to walk on the previous test. I think everybody has it (Bill, your redux is in the mail) now. Feel free to let 'er rip.

Just a note: In deference to Dr. J I'm going to wait to start the discussion thread until he has a chance to post the reveal for BFT 100.

NOTE: Track 8 is NOT 65 minutes long. It's a glitch in the metadata that I didn't notice until I was burning the disc for Bill, and I was not able to fix it. It's under 9 minutes.

Playing it safe, I will put the link to my bft page here. If you want the downloadable test, let me know here and I will PM you.

Well, it's certainly been done before. Pretty sure I've done it, but I don't want to violate the sharing regulations here (because I understand and respect them).

Quick question to those more informed than I: Is it bad form (read: against the rules) to post the link to the test in this thread? (meaning the "d" word) How about posting the link to the online version? Thanks in advance.

PM me your snail mail and I'll get in the mail ASAP.

Perfectly stated.

Jeff tells me it's time to start the sign-up thread for BFT #101. Please let me know who needs what format. I can also post it in an online player if need be.

No thanks, I'll have the rice.

Aw, now I feel bad cuz I love me some Pepper! Geez Al, I thought we were going to come to blows on this one! Seriously, if you go back and give it another listen, you'll hear that this solo is littered with Pepper's trademark licks. I would say that's true of the whole album, in a good way. It's not a five star record, but it's a very solid 4+ (perhaps 4 on the outside?).

Well, this one prompted me to do something I don't usually do -- search. I came up empty. Another overall enjoyable BFT. Looking forward to learning some of these. 1 - Nice take on It Ain't Necessarily So. Something about the voicings in the comping has me thinking Horace Silver, but then it goes away. The lefthand really speaks of Horace, but not the right, so much. I like this. The drummer is a little stiff, but it's not distracting, just really tight, the way Han Bennink was with Booker Ervin. 2 - ESP, but why? Guy has mad chops, I just wish the contemporary side of this music could move beyond this point from 45 years ago. Not sure who this is, but the rigid edge to the time reminds me of Larry Coryell. This one isn't really doing much for me. Unless this is two guitars, that guitar is overdubbed? That's a strike for me right there. Drum-bass interplay is more interesting to me, but still isn't quite firing. I'm seeing guys in the studio with headphones on, and that's a problem of "contemporary" Jazz. Forget the monitors -- listen to one another. I'm guessing early-to-mid 90s. Russell Malone? 3 - There is something Desmond-ish about the time of the alto player. I recognize the tune, but not the version. Something about the time makes me think this is a modern group playing older music. Trumpet sound is close to Dorham/Farmer, but the ideas are more Eddie Henderson. I'm sure I don't know who this is, but the tune is so damned familiar. My overarching impression of this is that, despite an interesting piano solo, it's very polite. Could maybe be Billy Hart on drums, but very restrained. 4 - The More I See You. The last BFT had a vibes sound that was reminiscent of Walt Dickerson, and this has some of that same quality, but to a lesser extent. Something about the shimmering vibrato, but it's not as spread as Dickerson's (can you tell I know nada about the vibes?). The feel of this reminds me of Gene Ammons' The Boss Is Back album. Seems like these are all guys I likely know, but maybe as sidemen from other recordings. The groove is there and it stays within itself. I like this. It's also polite, but feels more like it means it. 5 - Not a clue, not my bag. 6 - I want to like this more than I do. I like the stop-time arrangement, but the trumpet player seems to be playing equation Jazz. All standard arpeggios, carefully practiced and learned by rote. Tenor sound reminds me of Billy Mitchell but without his great sense of time. Almost a tad sloppy. It seems like a guy who isn't really accustomed to blending into a larger ensemble. Again, the notes are right, but it all seems too learned. I really like the arrangement. 7 - More shimmering vibrato. Excepting that, the guy reminds me of Dave Stryker. Gah! What is that tune. Sonny Rollins, right? The recording sounds is messing with me. Mid-80s? Wild guess -- Geoff Keezer on piano? 8 - Shades of that early Ornette sound. This reminds me a lot of William Parker's stuff with Jemeel Moondoc, but it's not them. 9 - Sounds an awful lot like Tony Williams, so I'll guess that it's Cindy Blackman on drums. The piano sounds a lot like the guys who transitioned from the 60s to where guys like Robert Glasper and Vijay Iyer are, now. Hmmm... now that we're to the drum solo, I'm hearing it more as Terry Lynne Carrington than Cindy. 10 - Huh! I was just listening to this in the car! The one and only Park Adams on baritone. It's LITTLE DREAMS from this. Love this record! Pepper was such a bad man! The unmistakeable doo-wop tinge of James Williams. 11 - This sounds like the real Tony Williams to me. I'm sure of it, but I don't recognize the tune. I was wondering if it might be the Mabumi Yamaguchi record he was on, but I'm not at all familiar with the player or album. 12 - No clue. Something George Russell-ish about it. 13 - I'm reasonably certain I have this, but I can't place it. It's pleasant, but in a very positive way. I mean, brushes, trio, nice recording -- could easily be a Muzak description, but this is very, VERY nice. 14 - Take off on David Murray's Murray's Steps. (KIDDING!!!) My immediate thought was that it was Joey Defrancesco, and I remembered the album vividly... 'til I went to find it. Now I'm stumped but that's who it sounds like to me.

Wow! I have Love in Exile, but evidently don't play it enough. I have trouble with Salim's stuff, but not all because of performance issues and I'll leave it at that. Evidently, I need to check out more Terumasa Hino because I keep loving the stuff I'm hearing in the BFTs. He's so close to Woody, though, that I sort of feel like I should stick with Woody. I knew of this other Bindu recording but hadn't heard it. Hamid is such a BAAAAAAAAAAAD man!!!! Feeling good about the ears given some of the partial IDs. Heading out to search for The Fourth Way's stuff, now. Thanks!

Download, s'il vous plait.

Interesting. I actually had the ElSaffar disc but I didn't care for it and I parted with it.

Finally got around to this today. Started hot then quickly petered out. There is a lot in this test that I think I'd like more on repeated listening, and a few that are just outside my radar, but on the whole, this was up my alley. One listen, no peakies. 1 - Ah! Francois Rabbath - Impalas from the album Bass Ball. Jonathan Blakeslee, my old bass player, hooked me up with this. Love this record! 2 - I like the drum/bass groove, but not sold on the tenor, yet. Shades of Jay Rosen on drums, but heavier. I'm not sold on the tenor. He's good, but a little... I dunno... I'll get in trouble if I say "white", but that's what I'm hearing. Nice bass work; fat. I mostly like this, but the tenor is too restrained and schooled for the groove the rhythm section is putting down. 3 - Sounds like somebody who liked a lot of Von Freeman in the formative days. I'm guessing a guy who plays multiple horns because I'm not hearing him as a tenor player, so much. Maybe Thomas Chapin? Doesn't sound full enough to be him. 4 - I love this in 4 seconds. Sounds like Hamid Drake to me on drums. That would suggest William Parker could be the bassist, but the trombone is throwing me off. Not sure of the alto, but he's not comfortable. Tone is more in the inside edge of things, but the approach makes me think Moondoc, but doesn't seem quite sure enough of himself to be Jemeel. Maybe Noah Howard? Not sure of the bone. If I was forced to guess I'd say Jeff Galindo, but I don't think it's him. That alto is really not resonating with me, which is breaking my heart because I love the rest of it. 5 - I could like this, but whatever electronics are involved in that bass are killing it for me. No idea on the soprano. 6 - Totally in love with this. No idea what it is, but I could listen to a night of this very easily. Almost has an Eddie Gale feel to it, but too technical. Nice late-70s recording. Maybe Beaver Harris on drums? 7 - This is teasing me. That vibrato has me thinking Dickerson, but it's too constrained. The band could easily be one of his bands with Eustis Guilmette. Don't know what this is, but I have to have it, immediately!!!! Crazy guess: Clifford Jarvis on drums? 8 - Hmm... something is telling me Frank Haynes on tenor, but I don't know this. 9 - Three that puts me in love. Arrangement is a little cluttered, but I'm thinking that's Billy Higgins on drums. Sounds like one of the LA guys; Billie Harris or someone like that. Definitely has that feel of the Tapscott school, though seems more inside than that. Don't know the trumpet, but he isn't quite cutting it for me. I want to say maybe John Gordon on trombone. 10 - Busy but in a sloppy scramble sort of a way. Sounds almost like Odean Pope to me, but I don't hear any circular breathing. 11 - Sounds like McBee on bass to me. Could be Michael White on violin. In fact, I'm almost sure of it. Love this. 12 - I'm in. If I didn't know better, I'd swear it was Mike Walsh on drums. But given the instrumentation, I'm going to say Trio X, though the sax playing seems more out of the school than Joe. I can't imagine who else would have that instrumentation (I'm assuming tenor and trumpet are the same; failing that, I'm dead wrong, b/c that tenor does NOT sound like McPhee). 13 - Early 80s? Seems to have a touch of that 70s Muse/Strata-east thing going on, but the band seems closer to Woody Shaw's stuff of the early 80s. I was thinking Gary Bartz, but this guys doesn't have the same facility. Sure sounds like Woody Shaw to me; wait, no. At the screaming -- I LOVE this guy! He's suddenly me with a trumpet!!!! I like this feel. It's got some Tolliver-isms in it, but has that ragged energy of a Rashied Ali date. This is up my alley and is going to cost me more money. The head rambles a bit, but overall, this is a keeper. 14 - Hating this bass a great deal. Holy CTI, not digging this one at all. Could this be the Breckers? I'm not digging the tenor at all, so that's a safe bet. Bob Berg? One of those guys. Hearing some Ron Carter licks in that bass solo. 15 - No idea, but I want it. Reminiscent of some of Kahlil El'Zabar's stuff.

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