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Thanks for the kudos on Jimmy Jones. One caveat: You'll notice both my posts were edited. I typed, "Jimmy Johnson" in both, but didn't catch it till the second post came up. Definitely had him though -- love him. Other than Stray, did Duke ever let anybody else sit in that chair? It *WAS* Billy Mitchell! I'll be damned! Thanks, this was great.

Eh, what the hell. I decided to finish disc one. Track 09 - Recognize the tune, but can't think of the title. Just not sure who this is. Don't like the vibes at all... very cluttered. Track 10 - This is nice, but doesn't really grab me. Can't quite put my finger on why. Piano seems too busy during the guitar solo. Track 11 - I think this is a Horace Silver tune. Reminds me of the record in the late 80s with Red Holloway. Electric bass - the bane of my existence. Don't like the tenor at all. I'm going say Mike Brecker, because it totally rubs me. Plays his ass off, but it has nothing to do with the music. Egad that man frustrates me. Not sure about the trumpet... sounds too mellow to be Randy B (whom I *do* like). If this is Horace's band, it's from a period I'm not that familiar with (post Jody Grind). Oh yeah, that's Horace. Don't care for the drums at all... that 70's tinny disco sound. Don't need to hear that again. You know, that could double for the Barney Miller theme. Track 12 - Silveresque arrangement, but I don't recognize the tune. Could be Lee, but doesn't sound strong enough to me. Can't quite put my finger on the piano player. Clifford Jordan on tenor. Could that have been Blue Mitchell on trumpet. Aw, man! Clifford is so *baaaad*! Oh! Wait a minute, I know this. This is Take Twelve. Can't remember the tune name. Lee, Clifford... Barry Harris on piano, heck that's obvious now. Louis Hayes (that's from memory)... bass... either Watkins or Cranshaw. Gonna have to cue that one up again soon. Track 13 - Oh yeah! Ben, Budd Johnson and Hawk. Can't remember the title for the life of me. LOVE this! You Dirty Dog, or something silly like that. Jimmy Jones on piano, I think. Budd takes the first story. Man, *he* was a baaaad man. If you can find OFF THE WALL, grab it. Roy! Get excited little man! Huh hehe!!! I love this s**t! Hawk. Is that Kenny Clarke? Aaah, Ben. Speak, baby, speak. Track 14 - I know this. Gorgeous tone. Damnit! I have this! I was listening to this a couple of months back. This hurts!!! Is this Billy Mitchell? It's great, whatever it is. Man... I *know* this guy! Unconscious! Plays like Hartman sings. Even sounds a little Golsonesque. I'm going to stick with Billy Mitchell. Man, that was beautiful. Track 15 - This sounds like a fun recording, but I'm not placing anybody (I'm still in therapy after the last one). This has to be one of those all-star session recordings; drummer is just slugging it out. This is the kind of music my house was inundated with growing up. Almost sounds like Papa Joe on drums, but too heavy. I think this is probably a bunch of those guys that never really made it in bulk into my collection. Maybe Frank Wess or somebody like that. Track 16 - Nice arrangement. What the hell is that tune. Harold Arlen? Ah! The Second Time Around. Oh! I know this. That's Bill Evans. I think this is on that Fantasy record with the terrible cover. Great personnel; Harold Land, Ray Brown, Philly Joe; but it just doesn't work (though this track is great). I remember the other Bill Evans kind of ripping that recording in his Downbeat blindfold test. He back-pedaled a bit when they revealed what it was, but I agree with him; given the personnel on that date, there's just something missing.

I'm only through disc 1 part 1, but I'm going to have to do this in sections. I haven't read the thread, yet, I'm going to see how I do first. Thanks extended to Chas for hipping me to the availability of these files. Track 1 -- No idea. Sounds a bit like Dizzy's band, but the trumpet doesn't have Dizzy's chops. I like the arrangement, especially the bari. Playing is a tad sloppy, so I'm thinking a second tier band. Track 2 -- Sounds like Maynard's band with Kamuca to me. No idea what the record is. Track 3 -- Ellington, Hodges... I think late 50's. Sounds like Jimmy Jones on piano. Very nice. Track 4 -- Not entirely sure. Sounds like Phil Woods on alto, so I'm wondering if it might be Quincy's band. Didn't like the tenor at all. The band on the whole is rather stiff... just didn't swing. Track 5 -- I recognize this, but this style is my weakest area (notwithstanding fusion). No clue. I'd guess and older, (don't crucify me for this) white, big band. Track 6 -- Johnny Griffin for sure. Maybe the Clarke-Boland band. I love it, whatever it is. Track 7 -- Oh yeah, baby. Beautiful. That's Benny Golson. I gonna say Blakey. Not sure on the trumpet... maybe Bill Hardman? Comping sounded like Cedar Walton, but the solo did not. Not sure. Track 8 -- Jimmy Heath's Gemini. That's from Triple Threat. Julius Watkins, for sure. Freddie Hubbard (very GOOD Freddie)... hmmm... Bobby Timmons? Oh no, that's Walton. I'm pretty sure one of his brothers was on this... Tootie? Not sure about the bass. This cut really reminds me of Mohawk from J.J. Inc. Hope to listen to more tomorrow and post what I think on it. Hope I didn't make a complete fool of myself, but I'm pretty confident on the last 3.

By web-based do you mean streaming or downloadable ? Several BFTs have been downloadable , including one you can still get in on if you're quick about it >>click<< That's one option, another would be a web-based player. I guess I was thinking of the latter. I know most folks (myself included) don't have their "A" system hooked up to the computer, and I just wasn't sure how much of an issue that'd be.

Just out of curiosity -- I read the FAQ for the BFT and saw nothing about this question. Has anyone considered doing an online (web-based) BFT? I'm sure hardcore audiophiles will reject that notion outright, but given the limits of commercially available CD-R technology, it may not be that extreme a difference. Either way, I'm interested, but I'd like to get my feet a little wetter around here before signing up.

Thanks John. How could I forget that both groups are from Chicago... I still have a lot tp learn.... Unless I'm mistaken, I believe you've just sentenced yourself to the listening of the Cosmos Song. Enjoy.

Okay, but let's not let the jocks off scot free. The whole issue doesn't take root without their greed. Stating "union" leads me to think of the power brokers at the top.

I think Clemens is guilty as he is fat. I also think Canseco's original numbers are probably the closest to accurate we've seen yet. They just need to smarten up, put in a zero-tolerance policy, and make it go away. In the meantime, Congress has some much more important issues (besides this and "spy-gate") they should be dealing with.

Ditto.

I understand... Jim. Sorry, I was showing Being There to my film class today and I'm in a quote rut.

Thanks. I did some searching and found an article where Dennis Gonzalez was discussing Johnny, so I e-mailed him and asked him. He says: So, another one solved. Also, I noticed on the WWUH website that they say Charlie COAL hace... to the best of my knowledge, it's COAL haze.

JSngry, really enjoyed your long post, man. You really nailed it. I've seen David a number of times between 1985 and 2005, including the show in Boston where he first presented PAUL GONZALVES, and I've never been disappointed. I can understand why some don't get it, but man, reading your post was like reading my own mind. Thanks for saying it better than I could have.

No takers on Johnny Dyani, eh? I recall reading somewhere (damned if I can remember where) that the Dy makes a J sound, something akin to Johnny Jah knee This sound right, or am I high?