David Ayers

In Britain we have several jazz features which run on Radio 3 (the classical music wing of the public broadcasting sytem). It means that over time you can sample quite a lot of music for free. How many people outside UK can use radio to get into things? Does everyone rely on buying things in order to hear them at all?

Didn't realise how easy it was. Listed a duplicate book I have and suddenly realised I am sitting on a gold mine! They charge about 20% if you sell, nothing if you don't, and the listing lasts 60 days. This is a good idea, right? Or am I missing something? PS Uggh - it appears I am a Marketplace seller not a z shop - same difference, right?

Horace Silver comes to mind. Definitive has issued some of his BN recordings. As I've mentioned in other threads, the general public will buy what's on the shelves at the cheapest price possible. Public domain reissues are an unknown to most people. The point gets missed on these early fifties issues from Definitive that you can be certain that EMI are no longer paying performer royalties on these in the issues sold outside America [corrected - I had previoiusly written 'Europe'] - since in law they do not have to. Only American consumers have the moral dilemma when they see Definitive in the stores. EMIs idea is to compete with the alternate versions by making a superior product - hence RVGs - and also to compete on price as far as possible (see their Euro-Callas editions.) By the way, as an author whose books are read in libraries and no doubt photo-copied if required I seriously wonder whether anyone participating in these debates can say they always bought a book (thereby ensuring the author got his/her royalty of 5-10%) and never borrowed or copied. As far as I can see copyright images and texts appear on this BB every day. The issues are similar.

This one?

I was scammed, years ago, with the old money for bus fare scam (it was in New Haven Connecticut - the guy was supposedly going to Alabama). Funny thing is, like you, I gave him half. Half!!! It meant I didn't believe him but I gave myself a 50/50 chance of being mistaken. Duh!

John Do you know Brighton at all? There is one down the road near the station - I can't remember what it is called maybe you can - and there is another a little further on, also good for LPs. I haven't been for a few years and can't remember what they are called. Do you know them and can you give any detail? The road in question is, I think, Trafalgar Street - down from the station in a weird going down into hell type way. Look here for some addresses and maps - there are other shops than those listed - he could always phone around these shops once he gets here and ask about others they may know of - Brighton is just about worth scouring for LPs, I'd say. PS More info here and here and here. With the tel. nos. he can phone around a bit in advance and confirm what kind of stock places hold (it will have changed since I last went.) Brighton is fun for shopping! PPS Here is a list of numbers: Across the Tracks, 110 Gloucester Road, 677906 BPM Music, 4 Bartholomews, 747400, web Classical Longplayer, 31 Duke Street, 329534 Classics, 28a Tidy Street, 694229 Covert Records, 39a Sydney Street, BN1 4EP, Shop 624774, Office 624664, Fax 0207 6919650, email, web Dance 2, 129 Western Road, 329459 Different Music, 12 Brighton Square, 202895 Edgeworld Records, 6 Kensington Gardens, 628262 Electrodisc, 111 Gloucester Road, 676509 Fine Records, 32 George Street, Hove, 723345 Happy Vibes, 52 Gardener Street, 699904 HMV, 61-62 Western Road, 747221 Music Meltdown, 10 Sydney Street, 608806 Music & Video Club, 97 George Street, Hove, 730748 MVC, 8 Air Street, 727414 Record Album, 8 Terminus Road, 323853 Recordland, 40 Trafalgar Street, 672512 Riks Records, 422 Portland Road, Hove, 430739 Roughman Connection, 42 Lewes Road, 706333 Rounder, 19 Brighton Square, 325440 Scarlatti's, 88 Western Road, Hove, 770518 Virgin, Churchill Square, 737712 Wax Factor, 24 Trafalgar Street, 673744 Wizard, 48 Baker Street, 672658 Woolworths, 183-185 Western Road, 329262 Hove is continuous with Brighton and can easily be visited as part of the same outing - even on foot.

Don Pullen & Milford Graves-At Yale U. PG 286 USA rec New Haven, Yale University 4/30/66 Milford Graves-d,perc Don Pullen-p Milford Graves/Don Pullen-Nommo SRP 290 USA rec New Haven, Yale University 4/30/66 Milford Graves-d,perc Don Pullen-p Unfindable. A good obsession to have though! Tell a lie - I found two copies of Nommo - $300 for the first issue, $200 for the second. LPs, you understand.

Anyone heard this recent release on Concord? Really fine, and it just grows and grows on you. Valuable supplement to the Mosaic, maybe? Also dusted off Three Little Words on Jazz House Records, a 1965 Les Tomkins recording from Ronnie Scott's with all the problematic sound and intense musical interest which those tapes have so far had.

Verve site lists this set: 9/20/04 The Jazztet - Complete Verve Sessions - Box Set - GRP Records

Did anybody mention George Russell? 'The African Game' and 'So What'.

This thread has just skipped a year. No wonder they call it cyberspace and not cyber time.

Truer words and all that... There is a real value in moving on too! But if you think there are any you might be sentimentally attached to, or something that on a lonesome night with a bit of alcohol inside you might just hit the spot, then keep that one back! My method with an artist I once liked but have grown tired of is to keep one title, the one I think is best, and lose the others. Then if I play that title again and realise I don't really care for it, that one goes too. I'm very systematic!

Lonehill were going to do a John Coltrane The Complete Alto Episodes collection but were unable to secure all the rights they needed and decided it would be unethical to issue it. My jokes are laborious, I know.

HB2U!!

The entire judgement, if you are interested, can be read here. Sections 49 onward are of most interest.

I wanted a duel!!

from Gramophone.co.uk: Copyright royalties are due on editions of 18th century music, rules judge July 8 2004 An editor has won his claim against a record company to be paid copyright royalties on editions he prepared of the 18th century French composer Michel-Richard de Lalande. In 2001 Hyperion Records recorded four Lalande works for a disc called Music for the Sun King, for which the academic Dr Lionel Sawkins prepared new editions of three pieces, and which also used an existing edition by him. The work included recreating viola parts of one work, and making 600 corrections (319 of which were his own) to the bass figuring of another, working from a number of manuscripts. It has been Hyperion’s policy to not pay copyright royalties on out of copyright composers. According to a statement issued by the label, ‘Hyperion has always understood musical copyright to be about originality. We contended that the three editions did not involve any significant composition of new music and therefore were not original musical works.’ On July 1 Mr Justice Patten, a High Court judge, found that Sawkins’ work was sufficient to give him copyright. In his judgement, he said he did not think you could 'reject a claim to copyright in a new version of a musical work simply because the editorial composer has made no significant changes to the notes, whether by addition or correction... The question to ask in any case where the material produced is based on an existing score is whether the new work is sufficiently original in terms of the skill and labour used to produce it.’ ‘I am delighted with the outcome which should fire a shot across the bows of record companies and ensure they recognise the rights of those who prepare thoroughly researched editions of early music,’ said Sawkins. ‘Too often in the past editors have been prepared to sacrifice their rights in order to see their edition of a long forgotten masterpiece recorded.’ The judge also found that Sawkins had told Hyperion prior to the disc being recorded and released that he expected to receive royalties. Costs and damages are understood to be up to £500,000. The disc, which Hyperion has now deleted from its catalogue, had cost £32,438 to make, and had sold 3,358 copies, generating £14,646 revenue. Hyperion was given leave to appeal, which it is planning to do. Other record companies already take steps to avoid such a situation. For example, Naxos asks its artists to confirm that they are either not using a copyright edition or have received permission to do so without incurring copyright obligations. Klaus Heymann, chairman of Naxos, said he thinks musicologists should be paid for their work, but questions what generates copyright. ‘What is essential is that standards for creation of a copyright must be very high. After all, is a musicologist who adds or completes a few bars worthy of being granted the same rights as Beethoven, Mozart, Stravinsky or Sibelius?’ ‘The end result will be that a lot less of this material will be recorded because you can’t afford to pay mechanical copyright on some 17th or 18th century composition, because our business is only viable if only a certain percentage is in copyright, because the margins are just not there.’ Martin Cullingford, Gramophone News and Online Editor

It's a showdown. Hans is the McDonalds of Hiroshi Tanno Japanese issue posts - and I am the more individualisitic flame-grilled alternative! Choose your supplier carefully!

The following CDs are scheduled for release. On September 19,2004 P Vine PCD 23557(New) Ranelin,Phil/Inspiration 2415 P Vine PCD 22079(New) Mighty Imperials,The/Thunder Chiken 2310 On September 22,2004 Venus TKCV 35336(New)24bit Kuhn,Steve/Dream Dancing 2800 Universal UCCI 1010(Impulse)New Coltrane,Alice/Translinear Light 2600 Universal UCCI 9104(Impulse)24bit,New Coltrane,Alice/A Monastic Trio* 2400 Universal UCCI 9105(Impulse)24bit,New Coltrane,Alice/Huntington Ashram Monastery* 2400 Universal UCCI 9106(Impulse)24bit,New Coltrane,Alice/Ptah,The El Daoud* 2400 Universal UCCI 9107(Impulse)24bit,New Coltrane,Alice/Journey in the Satchidananda* 2400 Universal UCCI 9108(Impulse)24bit,New Coltrane,Alice/Universal Consciousness* 2400 Universal UCCI 9109(Impulse)24bit,New Coltrane,Alice/World Galaxy* 2400 Universal UCCI 9110(Impulse)24bit,New Coltrane,Alice/Lord of Lords* 2400 Universal UCCV 1063(Verve)New Haden,Charlie/Land of the Sun 2600 Universal UCCE 1046(ECM)New Garbarek,Jan/In Praise of Dream 2600 Victor VICJ 61232(Concord)New Anderson,Eanestine/Hello Like Before(xrcd) 3885 Victor VICJ 61233(Concord)New Grappelli,Staphane/Vintage 1981(xrcd) 3885 Victor VICJ 61234(Concord)New Maria,Tania/Come with Me(xrcd) 3885 Victor VICJ 41011(Riverside)New Evans,Bill/Waltz for Debby +4 1500 Victor VICJ 41012(Riverside)New Evans,Bill/Portrait in Jazz +1 1500 Victor VICJ 410122(Riverside)New Montgomery,Wes/Full House +3 1500 Victor VICJ 410123(Riverside)New Montgomery,Wes/The Incredible Jazz Guitar 1500 Victor VICJ 410124(Riverside)New Montgomery,Wes/FBoss Guitar +2 1500 Victor VICJ 41013(Riverside)New Evans,Bill/Sunday at the Village Vanguard +5 1500 Victor VICJ 41014(Riverside)New Evans,Bill/Explorations +2 1500 Victor VICJ 41015(Riverside)New Evans,Bill/Moon Beams 1500 Victor VICJ 41016(Riverside)New Evans,Bill/Green Dolphin Street 1500 Victor VICJ 41017(Riverside)New Evans,Bill/Interplay +1 1500 Victor VICJ 41018(Prestige)New Rollins,Sony/Saxophone Colossus 1500 Victor VICJ 41019(Contemporary)New Rollins,Sony/Way Out West +3 1500 Victor VICJ 41020(Prestige)New Rollins,Sony/Tenor Madness 1500 Victor VICJ 41021(Prestige)New Rollins,Sony/Work Time 1500 Victor VICJ 41025(Prestige)New Davis,Miles/Relaxin' 1500 Victor VICJ 41026(Prestige)New Davis,Miles/Cookin' 1500 Victor VICJ 41027(Prestige)New Davis,Miles/Bags Groove 1500 Victor VICJ 41028(Prestige)New Davis,Miles/Walkin' 1500 Victor VICJ 41029(Prestige)New Davis,Miles/Workin' 1500 Victor VICJ 41030(Prestige)New Davis,Miles/Steamin' 1500 Victor VICJ 41031(Prestige)New Davis,Miles/Dig +2 1500 Victor VICJ 41032(Prestige)New M.J.Q./Django 1500 Victor VICJ 41033(Prestige)New M.J.Q./Concorde 1500 Victor VICJ 41034(Riverside)New Monk,Thelonious/Thelonious Himself +1 1500 Victor VICJ 41035(Riverside)New Monk,Thelonious/Brilliant Corners 1500 Victor VICJ 41036(Riverside)New Monk,Thelonious/Monk's Music +2 1500 Victor VICJ 41037(Prestige)New Monk,Thelonious/Trio 1500 Victor VICJ 41038(Riverside)New Monk,Thelonious/Misterioso 1500 Victor VICJ 41039(Contemporary)New Pepper,Art/Meets the Rhythm Section +1 1500 Victor VICJ 41040(Prestige)New Coltrane,John/Soultrane 1500 Victor VICJ 41041(Riverside)New Kelly,Wynton/Kelly Blue +2 1500 Victor VICJ 41042(Prestige)New Garland,Red/Groovy 1500 Victor VICJ 41043(Pablo)New Pass,Joe/Virtuoso 1500 Victor VICJ 41044(New Jazz)New Dorham,Kenny/Quiet Kenny 1500 Victor VICJ 41045(Pablo)New Vaughan,Sarah/Crazy & Mixed Up(Autumn Leaves) 1500 Victor VICJ 41046(Debut)New Parker,Charlie/Jazz at Massey Hall 1500 Victor VICJ 41047(Pablo)New Tatum,Art/Tatum/Webster Quartet +3 1500 Victor VICJ 41048(Riverside) Mitchell,Blue/Blue's Moods 1500 Victor VICJ 41049(New Jazz) Dolphy,Eric/Five Spot Vol.1+1 1500 Victor VICJ 41050(Prestige)New Bryant,Ray/Trio 1500 Victor VICJ 41051(Riverside)New Friedman,Don/Circle Waltz 1500 Victor VICJ 41052(Riverside)New Drew,Kenny/Trio 1500 Victor VICJ 41053(Riverside)New Baker,Chet/Chet +1 1500 Victor VICJ 41054(Contemporary)New Manne,Shelly/My Fair Lady 1500 Victor VICJ 41055(Fantasy)New Brubeck,Dave/Brubeck/Desmond 1500 Victor VICJ 41056(Contemporary)New Hawes,Hampton/Trio Vol.1 1500 Victor VICJ 41057(Prestige)New Getz,Stan/Quartet +4 1500 Victor VICJ 41058(Prestige)New McLean,Jackie/4,5 & 6 1500 Victor VICJ 41059(Riverside)New Adderley,Cannonball/In San Francisco +1 1500 Victor VICJ 41060(Riverside)New Adderley,Cannonball/Know What I Mean 1500 On September 23,2004 Sony MHCP 444(New) Johnson,Robert/King of the Delta Blues Singers Vol.2* 1890 Sony SICP 10006(New) Sanchez,David/Coral(hybrid) 2520 Sony SICP 10010(New) Omuma,Yosuke/The Three Primary Colors(hybrid) 2940 Sony VRCL 18820(New) Plaxico,Lonnie/So Alive(hybrid) 2835 Epic Sony EICP 405(New) Malia/Echoes of Dream 2520 King KICJ 2091(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/Manhattan Jazz Quintet 1800 King KICJ 2092(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/Autumn Leaves 1800 King KICJ 2093(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/My Funny Valentine 1800 King KICJ 2094(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/Live at Pit Inn 1800 King KICJ 2095(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/The Sidewinder 1800 King KICJ 2096(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/My Favorite Things 1800 King KICJ 2097(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/Plays Blue Note 1800 King KICJ 2098(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/Caravan 1800 King KICJ 2099(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Quintet/Best 1800 King KICJ 2100(Paddle wheel)New Manhattan Jazz Orchestra/Moanin' 1800 On September 27,2004 Sony SICP 620-6(New) Davis,Miles/Seven Steps:The Complete Miles Davis 1963-1964(7CDs) 17640 On September 29,2004 Universal UCGU 7031(Verve)New Getz,Stan/Getz/Gilberto(hybrid) 3360 Universal UCGU 7032(Verve)New Peterson,Oscar/We Get Requests(hybrid) 3360 Universal UCGU 7033(Verve)New Evans,Bill/At the Montreux Jazz Festival(hybrid) 3360 Universal UCGU 7034(Verve)New Parker,Charlie/Now's the Time(hybrid) 3360 Universal UCGU 7035(Verve)New Fitzgerald,Ella/Mack the Kinfe-Ella in Berlin(hybrid) 3360 Universal UCGU 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Don't overdo the birthday cake!

Mint++/Super Immaculate This is one of Dan Gould's less well known threads - and we think it smokes! It's in a slightly different groove than some of his earlier work, with tasty solo contributions from Bill Nelson, Jim Sangrey and Clunky. Solos are inside rather than outside, and the whole thing has a soulful groove that just goes on and on! !! !!! Some ringwear, 8" split to top and bottom seams, and clicks like it just invented morse code.

Thanks all! My problem is 3/4 solved... Thanks for the offers - I appreciate it!

Uh - those things are mutually exclusive then...?

Bist du der Verkäufer, Hans?

Thanks Claude. That is useful information. So far I can't get the seller to reply... oh well....