David Ayers

I've heard this before... but I've never dared to try it!

I've still got a soft spot for Frames by Tippett's Ark. I bought the LP when it first came out, after I heard it on the radio. It sounded like King Crimson who I was well into (KC used some of the same musicians) so when I turned on the radio and just cut into the middle of this stuff I was knocked out. It may well have been my first 'jazz' LP and was certainly my first 'free' LP - though not quite free as the liner notes explain. In fact, while most liner notes try to sell you something as accessible, the notes in this LP are an apology to hard core free practitioners that there are in fact some composed elements on this LP. Poor Keith Tippett! After the very brief fling with KC he was afraid of being called a sellout. Talk about a man of principle. Different times. I'm surprised The Longest Night hasn't had a CD retread. Maybe one day?

I think you're probably right.

Are you sure about that? Check here. (The Amazon/Caiman link I posted previously is for their U.S. Amazon page. The above link is for their U.K. Amazon page. ) the amazon US price is much better, 50 dollars vs. 50 pounds! Check the other private sellers on amazon.com, for a few dollars more, they may be shipping overseas. The 60 dollar price of amazon.com itself isn't bad either. Thanks guys - yes I noticed you can link to caiman on amazon.co.uk but as couw says the price is not right! I may go the other route... I'm waiting for the Jazztet to leak out this way (damn I'm tight fisted...). David, I'm tight fisted too - let me know where you go for these. John willco Knowing me I'll get nowhere fast!

Are you sure about that? Check here. (The Amazon/Caiman link I posted previously is for their U.S. Amazon page. The above link is for their U.K. Amazon page. ) the amazon US price is much better, 50 dollars vs. 50 pounds! Check the other private sellers on amazon.com, for a few dollars more, they may be shipping overseas. The 60 dollar price of amazon.com itself isn't bad either. Thanks guys - yes I noticed you can link to caiman on amazon.co.uk but as couw says the price is not right! I may go the other route... I'm waiting for the Jazztet to leak out this way (damn I'm tight fisted...).

That cycling thing works both ways. I'm overweight, but no amount of biking takes it down. End of season I'm about 3 kilos less than at start, and it all goes back on by end of November. Still at least I can rack up a few k in these snowy times without shivering like a whippet. When I saw her time of 2:54 I thought minutes and seconds...

The Woods offers these prices, post included. I don't know if they are best you can get in UK but Woods are usually good. COLTRANE, JOHN Cpte 1961 Village Vanguard Offer 39.99 IMPD 4232 COLTRANE, JOHN Complete Impulse Studio Offer 49.99 IMPD 8280 I see that Caiman have a very good price if ordered via amazon.co.uk, esp. on VV set, though with usual caveats as to possible duty payable.

Well, I'd say you have the essence of the VV set in the master takes disc, and to my mind, if it was one or the other (and regardless of price...) I would go for the (In)Complete Quartet box. More music, more music new to you, and more bang for your buck. You can always add the Deluxe editions as and when if you find all the bonuses and the edge in mastering desirable. (If you are that much of a completist I think you'd theroetically have to have this box anyway). Good as VV is, some of the tracks are of interest rather than essential. Yes, I'm a subversive, I know...

I see that Caiman have changed their policy since some people here ordered and will now no longer ship this set abroad - at least, not if you order via amazon.com, and half.com only operates in US (and Canada?). Is there another route?

I also get these pretending to be from every bank in the UK (as well as the ebay and Paypal ones). This has become one of the major scams of our time. It's called 'phishing'. Also important not to give out any bank details when someone has phoned you to 'verify your account'.

Yeah - but if you hadn't listened to side one first you wouldn't have needed healing... Edit: seriously, it is one side or other of the LP he counts out one ****ed up time signature - I can't remember which side or what time...

John Cage's 4' 33" in Fallujah has been pulled for similar reasons, I believe.

Monster monster monster!

Oblique! That list isn't fair!

So who got this set???? The suspense is killing me.

There was also a double-LP release on Affinity in UK and a further release as two separate LPs in France (Jazz Atmosphere - ?). I wasn't aware of any CBS release...

I think they are - Crazy Jazz now lists this as a UK distributed Mosaic at £83. You could perhaps get it for less.

Yes, I see now you are right - Amazon don't appear to be offering this for sale themselves.

The Jazztet Mosaic finally appeared on amazon.co.uk - but with a typo like that it may be no-one ever finds it... The Complete Agro/Mercury Recordings Do they actually want to sell this stuff?!

Don't be too surprised. The series is released by Universal in France.

Well I'm no RVG fan and have or have had all these titles... but I will give two cheers for Oblique - I won't 'upgrade' mine (and I have doubts about the effect of RVGing on the intensive sound of this one) but it is musically terrific, IMO better than some more celebrated Hutcherson titles, and I'm glad it is going to be in the reach of more buyers.

Bev - do you have the dates, or a link please? Thank you!

Wow...

About dissemination of jazz in Mexico I have no idea, but I reviewed an academic book about Colombian music by Peter Wade called Music Race and Nation which gave a vivid picture of the role played by popular music and the influence of jazz recordings (and vice versa) in the 30s/40s/50s. There are evidently many stories to be told about jazz in relation to popular recorded music from the 1930s onward in Mexico and Central/South America - I'm sure there is other work on it but I'm not really up on it.

I haven't heard the CD of this album and I probably wouldn't care to. The CD remasters of many Miles LPs destroy much of the ambience with excessive brightness, as far as I am concerned. Get Up With It is a really moody album, and the (relative) murkiness of the proceedings is a big part of that. Was Red China Blues really released as a single? Did it get to number one?