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Yes, I remember Jim Galloway at Jazzland, and sure he loved playing with Walter.

Got to have a look at those Schapowalow photos in that book. Right now, all my books are sealed, all my stuff, my Hi Fi everything since I have a huge house renovation, so I´ll look at it when I got everything fixed again. Very interesting remark about the error from the beginner´s perspective ! Exactly the way you said it, that´s how it was. And Right ! It was the times. When I was a beginner, I had two albums "Miles Davis Steamin´" and "The Great Concert of Charles Mingus", and when I mentioned Miles to others, they started talkin about Bitches Brew and Aghartha, but they also were people who didn´t really know too much about jazz, so they told me "what you listen is "THE OLD MILES". And so I thought what Miles played with Trane and Garland and Chambers and Philly J.J. is "old time jazz", and when I really heard "old time jazz" I mean trad, dixie it was not my kind of stuff because I expected to hear 5 guys playin stuff like "Milestones" and "So What" and what I heard as "oldtime" sounded more like the score from an old black white comedy film to me. So, informations were scarce, as a boy it´s harder to get around the right people, but I learned very quickly and 1, 2 years later I was the "jazz expert" on our high school, having the most records, and hangin out in clubs even if I was underaged but tried to look older and it was ok for my parents as long as school was right and without complaints......

I think one little book from that time that I have is "Siegfried Borris - Modern Jazz". I think I bought it in the 70´s when I thought "modern" might be what started with Mingus and Dolphy, what did Ornette and Don Cherry, Sun Ra, Cecil Taylor......, and was surprised that the "modern style" the book is about, is 50´s mainstream stuff, the MJQ, Stan Kenton ......, so it might have been "Modern Jazz" from a historical point of view....

I wouldn´t say I´m the biggest fan of Oscar Peterson like others might be (I got to know people who didn´t listen to anything else but Oscar Peterson ) , but yes.... the stuff Mr. .... that long long name something with Brunner-Schwer from the Black Forest really did a good job recording this master in a very private and personal manner. I don´t remember all of them, one was "Action", one was "Tristeza", another I think was a solo album "Exclusivly for my Friends" and strange enough the only one I kept even if most O.P. fans might not like it that much, is "In Tune" since I was curious how it works with the vocal group, and this was something like a hit this "Sesamy Street" everybody in my school knew and hummed that......

I must admit I don´t have this. Of course I have seen the cover many many times, and though I never heard how Tyrone Washington plays the participation of greats like Woody Shaw, "Spee", and a fantastic rhythm section , all of them among my favourites makes me want to listen to it. Don´t know how the cymbal work by Chambers sounds here, but on all other records I have with him and I have many, that´s exactly what I love. About "those falsetto notes"...... well...... have you read Horace Silver´s autobiography "Get to the Gritty Nitty" , Horace is such a kind person and always speaks in a very kind manner about all fellow musicians, but he has no kind words for Tyrone Washington and that his trips into avantgarde did not fit into the bands conception. Now I really might give this album a chance, since....though my first love is be- and hardbop, I have listened to and admired a lot of 60´s avantgarde too, love Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Archie Shepp, so maybe I wouldn´t be too surprised if I´d hear some falsetto screams if it makes sense to me.....

But also in later years Dexter still could look really sharp, like the cover photos on "Manhattan Symphony", "Gotham City" and "American Classic".

RIP Walter Grossrubatscher. Most of you might not have heard of him, maybe if you came by to a Viennese Jazz Club like the famous Jazzland and listened to some great international stars it might have been very possible that Walter was on drums. He played with Woody Shaw, with Junior Mance, with Ray Bryant, that´s what I remember best. The gig with Woody was around 1987. All those masters loved Walter´s drumming, they only had difficulties to pronounce his long name which sounds very unfamiliar to Americans. Only Woody Shaw, in whatever shaky condition he was in 1987, as he announced the musicians involved he memorized and pronounced "Walter Großrubatscher" without any difficulties. We all will miss Walter, he left us too early, I think he was about 63 years old only......

Thank you @felser, so there´s no need to purchase it since I have the DVD. But it´s still a shame there is so little recorded evidence of that Band. I don´t rate Mingus´ bands, but if I´d like to say the band with Dolphy and Jaky Byard was an important one and was considered worth to be recorded all around the world and if you want to listen to some of it you find dozens of records , but very little from that "second great band". By the way: I stated earlier that the next band after Adams and Pullen had left was the one with Ricky Ford and Bob Neloms. I was wrong. On the piano chair Don Pullen was followed by Danny Mixon, who stayed during the European Tour 1976. After that, for the European Tour 1977 Mixon was replaced by Neloms.

About the photo with Nat King Cole. Maybe I´m not too familiar with Nat King Cole I know more about Sahib Shihab, Budd Johnson than I should about Nat King Cole, but he must be a voice ladies love to listen to, my wife loves his album with latin tunes. But: Since I´m not so familiar with him, at the first look I had thought it´s a photo of Miles in Paris 1949, because the way Nat King Cole sits, is dressed and has his hair slicked back looks exactly like the young Miles who fell in love with Juiliette Greco then in Paris 1949. @Big Beat Steve : No, the book I threw away was not "Jazz Optisch" by Behrend. Not that I might agree with everything Behrend said, but I never would have threwn away a book written by him. The book with photos I threw away was something else, it was not a hard cover, so it must have been a cheaper edition, it HAD borrowed an article from Behrend, the one he wrote about "Free Jazz". The first part was photos, then was some explications what is jazz, what instruments has which combo, it left me the impression as if it was for schools, and something was written about jazz musicians going to a kid school and kids clappin their hands to the rhythms, ......anyway the book fell apart, it would have needed miles of "Tixo" or "Tesa" to glue the pages back......

Yeah I think I had a German Jazz Book from around 1968, that had many many photos in it, not only US Artists, but many many German artists who later became very famous too, so maybe some of the photographs were done by her. To bad I don´t know the title of the book anymore, but it fell apart, and since it didn´t have very much to read I had to throw it away when I moved.

I haven´t heard about her, but I did read Jazz Podium in the 70´s and early 80´s . But what I can see is really great photos, she could be almost as well known as Wolff from BN.

Is this the same music like the Montreux 1975 DVD? I have this, and when I saw this CD on Amazone I was not sure if it´s the same music like the DVD. I think the DVD starts with "Devil Blues" , then there must be a long version of Sue´s Changes, maybe another tune, and as I remember bonus tracks with Gerry Mulligan and Benny Bailey sittin in on "Good Bye Pork Pie Hat" and "A Train".......

Yeah, especially because during that last tour there were the long, new compositions "Cumbia" and "3 or 4 Shades of Blues". One tune they usually started with, was Sy Johnsons composition "For Harry Carney". This comes from the George Adams-Don Pullen band, it´s on the "Changes 1&2". It usually was a showcase for each of the soloists, sections where the bass laid out and the soloist did hot duos with Danny on drums. I remember that deep gosple like playing of Don Pullen on that tune. And they kept it also with the last band (Neloms,Ford). That tune really was a gym. Started very very quiet, than became very powerful. Anyway, this contrasts was Mingus´ speciality, as he did with George Adams-Don Pullen on "Sue´s Changes", you sure remember all those tunes and those concerts.......

Yes, they were great and I think their work with Mingus was his second great group, the first might have been the one with Dolphy in 1964. So the Mingus from 1974,75 with Adams/Pullen really brought Mingus back in action. But it´s a shame there are no live recordings from that group. You can listen to the fantastic "Changes One/Changes Two" the studio album, but while the Mingus-Dolphy 1964 stuff was recorded almost in each town so you have "live in Oslo,live in Amsterdam, live in Paris, live in......." but from Mingus with Adams/Pullen there´s only the DVD from Montreux, but nothing else live. I saw Mingus not with Pullen and Adams, they had left the band, they were replaced with Bob Neloms and Ricky Ford. Fine group, but not as spectacular as the Don Pullen/Adams collaboration....... I saw Adams/Pullen/Richmond with Cameron Brown early in 1980, they played the Pullen Classic "Double Arc Jake" I think it´s the title. And they played Pullen´s composition "Newcomer" which is on the otherwise weaker album "Mingus Moves".

Oh yes, I remember it came out shortly after Monk´s death. Great album, and not to forget, great bass work done by Buster Williams. Such a fantastic bassist.

I think the first time I heard Tootie was on that old Black Lion LP "Dexter Gordon at Montmatre" from I think 1967 with that fantastic swift version of "Like Someone in Love". And I fell in love with Tootie´s fantastic drum work, the sound of his cymbals, yeah ! A fantastic drummer !

Yes, this was the blessed days when you could see all those living legends on stage. All of them are among my favourites.

Is this one of those double albums they had from Prestige during the 70´s ? This one features the early sessions 1949/50 ? Those with Bud, the sides with John Lewis and J.J.Johnson ...... I have the LP with maybe the original cover, that´s some strange cover with some "angry birds flyin around".

Same here, haven´t played ot for many many years if not decades. Nice idea for listening to it again, especially as now there´s so much discussion about the Miles-Hank Mobley relations. I think I remember I paid very much attention to what Mobley played.

Wasn´t almost everybody else in the band also using ? Paul Chambers I think was a live long user. If Miles really had kicked the habit totally (wich I doubt I think he had a livelong affair with harmful stuff), at least his first quintet was only junkies and I don´t think he felt superior of them or they felt inferior or things like that.

wow, never thought Miles would also give his autograph...... About the photo: Whatever other difficulties Hank Mobley might have, he had taste, he´s always well dressed. Nice coat, the man had class. I heard that even at the very end of his live, when he appeared (but didn´t play) on a great BN anniverary he was well dressed and made a short speech. But there´s no photos from that event.

I´m not so sure if Miles really "hated" him, but look, that period when Hank was with Miles, was kind of a period of transition for Miles, he didn´t know for a while in what direction to go. He had behind him the first classic quintet, the sextet with Trane and Cannonball, the three albums with Gil Evans, the great achievement of "Kind of Blue" and the collaboration with Bill Evans, so the early 60´s was a time of more conventional stuff without risking nothing. So maybe Miles "hated" to look back at that period more than he personally "hated" Hank Mobley. Another thing: There are not many photos of Hank Mobley from later years. Once I saw a photo of him with a hat and grey beard, and maybe this was after he returned to the states? And one little photo of him on the Tete Montoliu album, but there I really had difficulties to recognice him, he looks so old.

Yes, more than just Bird......, well at least I had purchased the fantastic Billy Eckstine "Together" and the "Afro-Cubop" (Machito, Howard McGhee ), and once I purchased a Red Rodney with some "Bebop Preservation Society" but this..... didn´t appeal too much to me, maybe the same thing like you say "latter-day recordings by old bop master"

This one is really a treasure ! They sound wonderful together, and I think it was the only occasion Dannie Richmond (one of my favourite drummers) recorded for BN.

@HutchFan, thank you so much for this great infos. I think I should purchase some of those late Haig recordings. I think the Spotlite LPs where around when we used to buy LPs during that "era" , but I fear that during that period (1978) I was too much interested in Bird (who was something for me like let´s say James Dean would have been for the generation before me ) and since Spotlite was very much a "Bird-Label" (all those "Bird in Lotus Land" "Bird in Paris", '"Bird in Sweden" etc.) I overlooked the Haig albums under his own name, I think I "listened" to pianists only as Bird and Dizzy´s "sideman", but that was the situation, I was just a bit too dumb then to dig the whole thing...... I think I saw "I remember bebop" once or twice but didn´t buy it, maybe I feared it might be a sampler, but I think this was Henry Renaud´s thing, always trying to gather the bop pianists who had survived. On this cover I could recognize very easily Duke Jordan . Barry Harris, John Lewis, I´m not sure but the man next to John Lewis could be Walter Bishop ? Is Al Haig the first one? Or the one in the middle ? then, I don´t have no idea who is the first one .....