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I´m a piano player and though I´m not professional, I´m doing club dates with a trio and sometimes jam with other players, hornplayers, guitarists etc, but I almost don´t have experiences with vocalists. Usually we play mostly bop stuff, all the Bird,Diz,Bud,Monk stuff , up tempo, medium tempo, afro cuban (Manteca, Tin Tin Deo etc. ), ballads, all that stuff. But now a fan who digs what we do wants us to play at his wedding, a garden party something like that. He says our repertoire is cool for him he likes the Bud/Monk stuff and we should play our program, but......., for about a third of the program, some tunes in each set he wants a female singer. Can you guys tell me what kind of tunes female singers usually like to sing ? I haven´t met the singer yet, she´s busy and I think I´ll meet her just when the gig will be (beginning of summer). The guy told me "you know how it goes what people want to hear a singer do.... stuff like "Girl from Ipanema" "I can´t give you anything but love" etc etc..... Well okay, you can imagine I don´t need to "practice" or rehearse stuff like that, but I´d like to know about more tunes jazz singers usually do......, or for such an occasion. So please, if someone gives me an idea what tunes should be played so I just can imagine a bit what type of set it should be to mix vocals with instrumentals ? I know that singers sometimes want the stuff in different keys but that´s not the problem for me. If I hear a tune I might know it and should be able to play it in any key (I forget to mention I don´t really read music....... I take a glance at the chord progressions and that might be enough......)
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classical piano ? Maybe that explains why I was so puzzled when I heard her version of "Good Bait" on piano. It didn´t swing. That tune is a number that swings by itself, if you can´t swing on that, no one can help you. Reminds me of Gulda, who had to learn to swing and who tells in one of his books that Art Farmer gave him the advice "try to get that edge off"..... Dizzy used "Good Bait" to teach latin percussionists the meaning of jazz-swing. When they got lost, he quoted "Good Bait" and they knew where they are..... I think, Nina Simone might get credit for being able NOT to swing on a tune that is the most simple lession for non jazz musicians how to swing...... Or, maybe that was quite her intention ?
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Charles Lloyd sure is a great musician. I heard him once and liked what they played, a very good group. I remember when I was a kid, there was something like a Charles Lloyd hype. People had all his albums, more albums than Coltrane or Sonny Rollins. I think I remember I heard one or two with that great group with Jack DeJohnette and Keith, and dug it. But even then, and I still was almost a kid, I tried to find out what made him so great, so popular.
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I love his powerful drumming on the live dates with Miles from 1969 on, and several other occasions. But it´s my fault, I´m not an ECM - man, it´s not my kinda music. So I enjoy more his really powerful outputs, especially because he´s a non boppish drummer, I love bop, but very much the stuff beyond......
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One thing I remember about the gig I saw in 1990 with the Gunter Lenz Trio was the last number. He played an ultra fast version of "Mr. Sandman"......
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I think he was still with Blakey in 1957. Got a really rare album of the Messengers playing "Lerner & Loewe", RCA-stuff I think. Dockery IMHO had some influences of Horace Silver, maybe something like a cross between Bud and Horace. Once I got the chance to talk to Bill Hardman, who also played with Blakey during that time, and when I mentioned the "Lerner&Loewe" Stuff he said he remembers that session quite well.......
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I remember I heard him live once about 1990 at the former "Opus One" in Viena. He played tenor only, and I think he was with the Uli Lenz Trio. Great music, and as you said, he played more "mainstream" than in the early 70´s . But I love his soprano sax with early electric Miles also......
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Sonny Rollins Road Shows Vol 1 - 3
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happy birthday Gheorghe!!
Gheorghe replied to Bright Moments's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
thanks John ! Yeas, it was a good one. -
Yeah it´s really a moving story that Jackie McLean tells in his liner notes about how he met Tony and brought him to N.Y. Tony really had a great start in early 1963 there with the legendary McLean-Graham Moncur III -Bobby Hutcherson - line up, besides recording they performed at the Living Theatre I think. And the "Una Mas" with K.D......, until he got the call from Miles..... Tony Williams is one of my all time favourites.
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That´s really some fantastic musicians, Peter Friedman !
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happy birthday Gheorghe!!
Gheorghe replied to Bright Moments's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
Thank you very much. The music I heard on my birthday was the stuff "Clifford Jordan and the Magic Triangle" live, got the albums from my wife. Great music, brings memories back.... -
yes, Barry got a lighter touch, your are right !
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I remember it was many years ago I took my youngest son , a teenager at that time to hear Don Menza. Especially I remember how he run through the chords of a Rhythm Changes tune exactly the way Monk did sometimes: G flat - B natural - E – A – D – G – C – F – B flat..... if you know what I´m talkin´ about. Really strong. During intermission we met him at the bar. My boy looking deadly serious, maybe he was kind of awed by the meeting, and Don Menza „hey you lookin so serious ! Smile a bit, can´t you smile ?“ I told him my boy is a bit timid at the moment but likes very much what you play, and I told him how I liked the way he treated the rhythm tune and Mr. Menza seemed to like what I told him. Later he talked to a swiss couple and I was astonished to hear that he spoke fluently german...., I knew he had lived in Germany for some time, but I didn´t know he speaks so fluently german...
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Very interesting article, and it confirms some of my impressions about Harris´ style. He admits that if he plays a Monk composition it sounds more like the way Bud would interprete Monk. I always had the impression, that Harris sounds very very much like latterday Powell, the Powell from the 60´s after he lived in Paris for some years. I don´t know if the two men were close, but at least they met on several occasions and exchanged musical ideas. One of those occasions is recorded, where Harris plays some of Bud´s compositions and Bud seems to enjoy it very much. It must have been at the Baroness´ place..... Then, years later I heard a little record Dexter made in N.Y. in late 1976 "Bitin´ the Apple". I was astonished to hear Harris ´solo on the title tune. It really sounds like Bud in his very last years. The more Monkish touch, the more laidback manner, it sounds so close to 1963, 1964 Bud you might think it´s him if you didn´t know that Bud at that time was dead for 12 years.....
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anybody who knows more about the forthcoming release "Roadshows Vol. 4" ?
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does somebody remember the late Siegfried Kesser, born in Germany, but he lived and worked in Paris. Some might know about him, since he worked frequently with Archie Shepp (and recorded with him ! ) . He could play everything from bop to avantgarde, could play the blues really strong , I heard him live not only with Archie Shepp, also with Jimmy Witherspoon and Dee Dee Bridgewater......, great pianist.
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It seems it wasn´t recorded that much. A really good performance of a set of the acoustic sextet from the mentioned period was done in 1976 on the first VSOP album. It´s the first set the classic VSOP quintet representing the mid 60´s period, than the set from the "middle period" and the last set the electric group.
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interesting point ! thank you !
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with Azar Lawrence, that might be a kind of Alumni from Davis´ ´74, ´75 bands Dark Magus , Aghartha, Pangeea....
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should I start to write reviews about albums I didn´t know about *lol*
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Really ? Wait a minute, I just checked it out. Really ! Thank you, you made my day. I didn´t know that album (my fault), but I´m glad I could imagine something, that really exists, not only in my dreams. Must purchase that.
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Well those are leaders themself, like if you take Ray Brown, Ron Carter etc. on acoustic bass. But I doubt a leader-musician on tour, even if it´s a big name like Sonny Rollins or Diz would have used Jaco, Stanley Clarke for a touring group. They might use "musician´s musicians", who maybe are recommended by fellow bandmembers. Only if it´s a special event or maybe a promoting tour, like the legendary "Milestone All-Stars" (Rollins, McCoy Tyner, Ron Carter, - three "leaders" , plus Al Foster). As the topic is "Rollins and electric bass", how about an electric dream-band if it ever happened " as opposite to the mentioned "Milestone Allstars": Rollins, George Duke electric piano, Stanley Clarke electric bass, and you can keep Al on drums, or take Billy Cobham or Alphonse Mouzon.......