indigo

I agree. I read the archives for some months before signing up. Seeing how differences of opinion were handled helped me get a sense of this place: Quick wits, sharp tongues, and underlying decency. A winning combination, as far as I'm concerned.

Yep. He's all over it. Amazing! The guy's as tireless as he is tiresome.

Just making all this stuff up was a rather prodigious feat. I was most impressed by his ability to type a post and an expert-witness statement simultaneously, while giving a critical listen to several albums (at 78,000 rpm?) and whipping up a souffle.

Scottb, I feel your pain and smell the same shit! Up to now I have managed to mentally obstruct the few obsessive posters but lately there has been a couple of uninteresting and largely ignorant posters who have staged tsunamis of their own. Never thought I would be using an ignore button on this Board but the need grows more obvious each day! Brownie, I could not agree more. Just take a deep breath, don't let them bother you and keep making your valuable contributions. I'm glad I found this thread. Nice to know I'm not the only one who noticed the torrent of vacuous postings from certain quarters. It's also good to see that people have held their tongues -- I've only come across one or two negative comments directed toward the source of the outpourings. I'm in complete sympathy with scottb and brownie -- it's annoying and a waste of bandwidth. Yet in the end I have to agree with Johnj and Claude. Scrolling past the problem and not responding to the empty babble is probably the best way to discourage this sort of stuff. (And maybe it will help me lift my irritation threshold.)

brownie, are any of these Hawk discographies online? Last year I spent hours searching and found nothing.

Wow! Great! Both the disc and the answers are full of wonderful surprises. I would never, ever have guessed Trovesi on track 1. I've printed out the answers and will now read along with the next listening, which may affect my reactions. Maybe not. I want to give Koko closer attention. For sure, Mood Indigo, Whisper Not, and Body and Soul will still be the top picks for me. Thanks again for such a thoughtful, beautifully constructed presentation.

Quite so! It's magic. Every time i hear it, it's as fresh and captivating as ever. Excuse my while i head for the H's --- it's in there somewhere. Thanks for reminding me.

. . . or on this side of the other pond, I hope. Count me in (BFT and Woody Shaw). My earlier offer to help with distribution, especially in Asia (or am I the only one?), still stands. PM will follow.

This is one time I might welcome the interruption of a ballgame or even a long test of the emergency broadcasting system. I love Billie and broke the budget to donate to WKCR, but 360 hours? I'm weary just listening to the promos. Too bad they didn't combine the fundraising with a poll on the content of this year's festival. I'd trade some Billie days for some Bud . . . or Mal Waldron or Lucky Thompson or Sun Ra or Cecil Taylor . . . or . . . But, as clementine suggests, it's a great complaint to have.

Great timing! I've been wanting to start a Solal collection. Yesterday I searched for a Solal thread and came up empty-handed. Today it appears, as if special ordered. Solal first caught my ears on some Lucky Thompson albums. After that I began to tune into his singular style and the spark and intelligence he added to whatever group he was playing with. Last year I caught a radio program featuring his collaboration with Lee Konitz and made notes to look for European Episode and Impressive Rome -- both with Texier and Humair, 1968, Jazz a Juan - with NHOP and Humair, 1974, and couple of duet albums with Konitz - Duplicity, 1977, and Star Eyes, 1983. All the selections I heard from these were captivating. Any comments on the live at the Vanguard album? Keep the recommendations coming, please!

TO: catesta "Somewhere in France" is now somewhere in Taipei. Great stuff! The packaging is cool, too. Thanks.

I would be honored to give the Walt Dickerson a new home. I can even arrange a cover courtesy of this nifty page.

On WKCR, which just played three hours of early Cecil, they were saying that both March 15 and March 25 have been reported as the date and that the man himself celebrates on March 25. Fine with me -- it means two days of extra Cecil on the radio.

I'm still on my second listen. This disc is not what it seemed at first. Hints to the contrary notwithstanding, I find myself in sympathy with some of the "fake" and "imitator" comments. Yesterday, when I was listening to the first part of the disc while walking around, somebody bumped me and set off the 'repeat' button -- wound up listening to "Basin Street" three times before I could get the walkman out and fix it -- that track did not wear well -- once was enough. It was a different story today. "Mood Indigo" -- could I have missed it the first time around? -- is a delightful surprise with its unusual instrumentation. A lot of space. Cerebral and fun at the same time. Eager to hear more from this performance. "Whisper Not" is a joy, like a many-roomed castle -- I could settle in and explore for a long time. "Body and Soul" is making me crazy in the nicest way. The sound is so familiar, but I can't place it. By turns it puts me in mind of Frank Morgan, Art Pepper, and .... on an on, yet it's not precisely any one of them. If I had to guess, I'd say Archie Shepp, although I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

king ubu, Miles arrived today and is spinning as I write. Thanks!

TO: king ubu and sheldonm Joe Henderson and Steve Lacy, respectively, are on their way to you.

elvin! elvin! elvin! i'd follow that voice anywhere! imagine if he'd hosted a late-night jazz show ..... so far i've chilled out with this disc -- just listening. no notes, no mental stretching. a fair amount of duke here-- at least some of it from eastbourne, i think -- money johnson singing 'basin street blues"? 'whisper not' by the man himself. nice! gotta go back and listen to that 'body and soul' again (along with everything else). sounds very familiar but i can't place it.

Thanks for the info. If I remember correctly, the basic pricing comes out to about $0.25/track. So 'booster' downloads would be more expensive. Too bad, although it makes sense from the company's perspective.

would you or someone else please fill me in on the booster plans? i haven't yet signed up. i eventually managed to get beyond that you-must-register-to-enter-the-site page and could explore the offerings -- a lot of attractive stuff. but i couldn't find anything in the help files about the terms of the booster plans.

I'm only up to track 15 of disc 1, but I think I'd better post something now before the notes I've been making while listening become undecipherable. Besides, I'm getting mighty curious about what other people are saying and want to start reading the thread. I just got the discs yesterday, as the Ornette Coleman birthday marathon was starting on WKCR, so I wound up listening to disc 1 on the bus to and from work. Leaves a lot to be desired acoustically but it's a decent environment for concentrating on the music. And what a lot of it there is! Terrific variety. I've got my notes in front of me and the disc is playing now. First reactions: 1. Ben Webster. Old Folks. Sounds like unaccustomed backing. A local rhythm section at a club in Europe? Always happy to hear that beautiful tone. 2, 3, and 4. All sound like Hawk. 2 and 4 (I'm in the mood for love) sound as if they come from his time in Europe in the 30s. I recognize 3 but can't summon up the name -- I've heard it often enough that I want to say it's Fletcher Henderson, but maybe (guessing a theme here) it's Hawk with a band in England. 5. This one (Mop Mop) might fit the theme of U.S. performer in Europe. This version is kind of goofy and doesn't sound like any I've heard come out of the U.S. in the 40s. It's in a different place along the swing-to-bop continuum. In fact, it almost seems as if each musician is in a different place. Not at all cohesive. For sure it's not Howard McGhee. 6. This one kills the theme, I think. I have no guesses and no comments except that I find myself tuning into the rhythm section (this track is playing now), as I did on the first listen. No complaints about the front line, but I would have been happy with just the piano, bass and drums. 7. Uh-oh, a vocal, probably from the 50s, and it's not someone out of the swing era. Puts me in unfamiliar territory, although the voice itself is not unfamiliar. It's a treatment that might come from Anita O'Day, but I'm pretty sure that's not who it is. Could be Helen Merrill, although I'm not certain. 8. Accordion plays Whisper Not. I'm an accordion ignoramus (and will probably stay one), so no guesses. This has a nice swing to it. 9. I've been listening to Ornette for the better part of a day now (and a fine part it was!), so it's a little hard to get in the groove with a different sort of version of When Will the Blues Leave. 10. Sounds a bit like early Cecil Taylor. Don't think it's he, though. I like the energy and off-centered-ness. Could this be Jean-Michel Pilc? I don't have any of his albums (something that I ought to remedy). Have heard a few cuts on the radio and this track puts me in mind of them. 11. no notes for this one. Listening again -- bouncy. I'll leave it at that. 12. Lead-in drone is captivating. Expected it to melt into an 'aum' chant, but the sax instead is equally fitting. Quickly moves into sounding like a muezzin call and then evokes all sorts of exotic images. Could this be Rudresh Mahanthappa? As with Pilc, I don't have any albums but have liked the few cuts of his I've heard. 13. Great segue here. I like the sax 'conversation' and the way it resolves itself. This would be great breakfast music for a chilly, rainy winter morning. Who is this?! Is Pharoah one of the wild birds? 14. Nice solid piano trio. Could this be Kenny Werner? 15. This is as far as I've gotten. As soon as this track started playing, I was ready to turn off my critical faculties and just relax. Same thing happened again on second listen. Next time I ought to start with this track. I did, however, skip to #18 to see what would be 10 seconds long. Duke, of course. Well, Your Excellency, this is a fascinating collection, with plenty of new delights. I'm eager to get on to disc 2. Thanks so much. <insert applause smilies here >

...and I would be interested in the Steve Lacy if it's still available! Mark You got it! Please send me your address and I'll mail the disc late this week or early next.

"Qiao miao," as we say in these parts. After cranking out a particularly troublesome document, I decided to rest my eyeballs by checking in with this thread. Just as I was reading your post, my secretary walked in with the BFT. So, yes, it's here. And so is Ornette Coleman's birthday -- my ears are glued to WKCR for the 24-hour marathon. But I'll pop the disc into my walkman for the ride home. I've been good and haven't looked at the discussion yet. The Joe Henderson Big Band is yours! It will go out at the end of this week or early next week -- I'll let you know when I've mailed it. In the meantime, please send me your address -- part of the return address on the BFT envelope isn't clear.

updating my list of items available: TAKEN Joe Henderson - Big Band STILL AVAILABLE Gonzalo Rubalcaba - Antiguo STILL AVAILABLE Hargrove's Crisol - Habana TAKEN Steve Lacy and Roswell Rudd - Monk's Dream

Is this one still available? I can pay it forward with... It's yours! (Available with or without jewel case.) Could we do an exchange? I was just looking at the "five favorite piano players" thread, which made me think of Ray Bryant and reminded me that I've been intending to pick up Somewhere in France. Please send PM or email with details. indigo

At the risk of looking like a greedy pig (I'll live with it -- love Bennink!) . . . may I have that one also? On the plus side, it'll save you postage. indigo indigo, if you don't mind, I'd give some other poster an opportunity to get this one. If nobody takes it by Sunday, it's yours. Understand. That's fine.