Jim R

brownie, I think you and I are about the same age, so believe me, I understand. ... but I think we're still on #19 here.

Thanks for the info, guys. This is interesting, I just bought a new (sealed) copy of this from Dusty Groove for $3.99. It's a BMG issue (51561-2), and the copyright date on it is 1994. So Bill's copy is apparently newer, and somebody did some research in between the two issues. I'm surprised, obviously. I would have assumed that somebody goofed by including Edison's name. And I should have known- AMG was wrong again...

Thanks. That is of course the same recording that is discussed in the review I linked. I hadn't bothered to look at AMG's data. I don't use AMG for discographical purposes, which is why I used Google to look for info on this session. Unless somebody has an explanation as to why Edison was so clearly and specifically (even indicating which tracks he appeared on) referenced in that review, I'll just go ahead and assume that the reviewer got his wires crossed somehow. As far as I'm concerned, the chances are probably better than 50/50 that his error came from AMG in the first place (the review dates back a few years).

I was just entering some data into my database, and as I sometimes do in order to save me some typing, I tried a Google search for a discography of this Rogers recording. The link I selected was a review at AAJ: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/reviews/r1299_137.htm Edison is listed in the personnel (which seems to be otherwise complete and correct) as being in the trumpet section for all four of the tracks from the first of the two sessions (July 15, 1957); AND he is mentioned in the review as being a sideman on this. The booklet that came with my BMG/RCA CD issue credits Bruyninckx as their source, and does not mention Edison anywhere (properly, I would think). Did this reviewer take his data from AMG, or...?

Kids- go to your room, and LOCK THE DOOR!

Seems like I had (and saw) more that were not laminated. Not sure there's any rhyme/reason to it, but the idea that the earlier releases were laminated seems plausible. Anyway, I can understand your disappointment, for sure. A laminated LP cover is so much more attractive (unless it's got an air bubble, or one of those Emarcy's that's turned all foggy ).

Didn't know that. I'll delete the link. I just stumbled onto that page, and found it very funny (the rest of the site may actually be useful, I don't know...). Ella Fitzgerald lyrics: Chelsea Bridge: Ooh (repeat)

I almost died laughing when I stumbled onto this. For those who always wanted to be able to sing along with Ella's famous "Songbook" version with Duke, look no further: (link deleted)

One of the Ganelin guys? Score one for the bearded gentleman in the produce section! I am not taking part in the BFT, but I can't refrain from complimenting Dmitry for his choice - you wouldn't excpect to hear Chakasin in a BFT on Organissimo! Actually, as someone who has taken part in every BFT so far, I would say that one should really be prepared to expect the unexpected around here. We've had obscure recordings from all over the world (Eurpope has been well represented), and from just about all eras. Even my relatively straightforward BFT (#3) included a track from an Irish guitarist recording with Norwegian musicians on a Norwegian label (doing a Brazilian composition).

Maureen O'hara = Lee Meriwether:

E-mail on the way.

Sorry to hear this. I've never managed to get around to truly focusing on his work. I have him as a sideman with various artists including Baker, Pepper, Burrell, Rosolino, Niehaus, Touff, and Rogers, but nothing as a leader, unfortunately. I must correct that. Any suggestions? Anything in print?

Me too... and track 1... in fact, I might pull out my own CD copy (the one that I mentioned in my post, yet ingeniously failed to consider as a possibility), which I have owned for about a year and a half.

I used to do a lot of LP hunting, and it always struck me that pretty much anything I found on the King label would be beat to hell. Freddie King, Bill Doggett, James Brown, and on and on. Crown was another label I encountered that way frequently. Like you said, anything that was party music- blues, R&B, etc. Then again, finding ANYTHING old (and cool) in M or M- condition was relatively uncommon for me. I must have found enough jazz LP's in decent shape to keep me hunting every weekend, but it was always a struggle to find something that was both cool/hard to get (like old Blue Notes) AND in decent condition. Of course, I didn't get into it until the 1970's, so a lot of the classic 50's/60's stuff had already been circulating for quite a few years. I think it came up in another LP thread once that there were some labels that used higher quality vinyl back in the early years (RCA comes quickly to mind) than others, and some that pretty much sucked from the get-go.

Now there is a setup for some real (tasteless) bathroom humor. Not my style, though...

Yeah, I think that varies too, from person to person (age and experience is probaby a factor in terms of being "open"), and from test to test. Some people tend to write longer (more analytical) comments on each track than others do. On the other hand, some guys can express more in one sentence than I can in five.

Some bossa / brazilian jazz titles: 1962 (and in some cases '62 combined with later material) Cannonball Adderley- Cannonball's Bossa Nova- Riverside (Capitol) Milton Banana- The Rhythm and the Sound of Bossa Nova- Ubatuqui (Audio Fidelity) Joao Donato- Muito A Vontade- Polyfar (Brazil) Vince Guaraldi- Cast Your Fate To The Wind (Jazz Impressions Of Black Orpheus)- Fantasy Vince Guaraldi- The Latin Side Of Vince Guaraldi- Fantasy (not sure on the date of this) Quincy Jones- Big Band Bossa Nova- Verve (Mercury) Herbie Mann- Right Now / Latin Fever- Collectables (Atlantic) Herbie Mann- Do The Bossa Nova / My Kinda Groove- Collectables (Atlantic) Sergio Mendes- Dance Moderno- Philips (Japan) Dave Pike- Bossa Nova Carnival- New Jazz (Japan) Lalo Schifrin- Tin Tin Deo- Fresh Sound Lalo Schifrin- Bossa Nova Groove (Bossa Nova / Bossa Nova- New Brazilian Jazz )- Ubatuqui (Vee Jay / Audio Fidelity) Lalo Schifrin- Insensatez- Verve (Japan) Bud Shank- Bossa Nova Years- Ubatuqui (Pacific Jazz) Zoot Sims- The Bossa Nova Sessions- EMI (Colpix) Tamba Trio- Tamba Trio Classics- Mercury Paul Winter- Jazz Meets The Bossa Nova- Columbia (Sony) Paul Winter- Rio- Columbia (Japan) 1963 Bossa Tres- Bossa Tres Em Forma!- Polygram (Forma) (Japan) Bossa Tres- Bossa Tres- (Audio Fidelity) Ubatuqui Joao Donato- A Bossa Muito Moderna De Donato E Seu Trio- Philips / Polydor (Japan) Vince Guaraldi / Bola Sete Vince & Bola- Fantasy

Don't make any assumptions about the Blindfold Test phenomenon based solely on what you've seen here so far. No, they're not always negative in general, although there's always that element to some degree. You can't please everybody, nor expect everybody to like what you like (I know that's obvious, but it bears repeating every now and then). Only a handful of people have responded so far, and there may very well be some participants who will dig most of this. Anyway, I don't think there's any real pattern from test to test. There has been a wide variety of music sampled during these 19 tests, and there's quite a variety of tastes among us. So, it's going to be unpredictable. Basically, it's about being honest, so you're going to see some negative comments here and there. There are various examples of "nmcot"-type abbreviations that have been used over the course of the tests. You might want to go back and read the various BFT threads, even if you don't have the music, in order to get an idea of what has gone on before.

1. Matchmaker. Lovely intro, and some nice reharmonization.. Very “together” feeling all the way through. It flows nicely, IMO. This has what I really like in jazz- a familiar melody that hasn’t been played to death (although I have it by Wes, and Cannonball, and have heard other renditions recently... Eric Alexander, for example), interpreted with taste and imagination. I like just about everybody on this- and particularly the rhythm section (dig that Miles “someday my prince...” vibe). I don’t know this version, but I would (and I may) buy this. 2. Uh-oh... 10+ minutes long, and nothing about the opening minute is attracting me very much. This reminds me of a lot of the material we had on a BFT a few months ago (can’t recall which one) which was largely long, slow, meandering stuff like this. I would find this boring to play, and it’s even more boring for me to listen to. I can follow it, and appreciate the musicianship to an extent, but I wouldn’t choose to listen to this. 3. I like this a bit better than #2, but I don’t care much for the piano intro, the main theme, the sax player’s sound... the feeling is kind of sterile sounding to me. Perhaps too “impressionistic” for my taste. I do think it picks up some momentum as it goes along, and the drummer helps to inject some life into things during the piano solo (trying to think of some good things to say ). It’s okay... just not mcot. 4. Not for me, thanks. 5. I never cared too much for this tune, although I’m not sure why. There always seemed to be a certain “trite” quality to this, since it was sung into the ground over the years (kind of like “misty” in that respect). This performance is pretty good, though, IMO. I don’t particularly dig the singer, but she’s good. I hear sincerity, and not the “listen to what I can do with my voice” quality I hear from so many singers. Anyway, I don’t know who it is, and I wouldn’t buy it. 6. Kind of an interesting opening, with the different instruments taking turns; and I thought this was going to be an interesting theme... but it sort of petered out before it lived up to my hopes and expectations. Quickly got “noodly” sounding to my ears. I like the sound of the vibes in this setting, but the whole thing really doesn’t hold my interest at all. Pretty major yawnfest, IMO. 7. Another dark and dreary one... was it raining when you recorded this, Dmitry? This sounds like Miles (or someone trying to be Miles) to me. If it’s Miles, it’s nothing I recognize. At any rate, good trumpet playing, but the piece does very little for me. 8. This is pretty interesting. I don’t recognize this either, but it’s more familiar than anything I’ve heard here since track 1. This has a 50’s cool vibe, but the instrumentation of this group is not ringing any bells for me yet. I like the doubletime sequences and the riffing under the solos. I feel like I should know this one... I may own it, in fact. Or, maybe not... but I'll be interested to find out. 9. Hmm... this is reminding me a bit of something from Mike’s disc 2, but this has a more modern modal feel to it. Not necessarily a good thing, as I find this largely quite monotonous. Seems like this fades out kind of early... 10. Yet another dark, lonely, dreary one. Sounds like it was recorded at night down at the docks (after the tenor player’s family left on a ship). Not a mood I’m in very often. Not a whole lot here for me, but that's the way it goes sometimes. Different strokes... Thanks, Dmitry.

A few that come to mind... J.J. Johnson Lou Levy Joe Williams Lockjaw Davis Phineas Newborn and one that I'm not even familiar with, the Sauter-Finegan band. I wonder if there's any unreleased Rollins material...

Ohhhhh, YEAH!!

From gokudo.co.jp: Not the cleanest image, but in case you can't find another...

Lemme guess- you were going to actually do one disc of David Seville with the Chipmunks this time? (sorry, that was weak). But seriously, I hear ya (although it really is OUR problem if that were the case- not yours... but I know you know that and I know you know that I know that, and I know... um... never mind). Glad it's nothin' serious (and I AM serious about that!). Thanks.

Spirits? Up again? Did I miss an important thread, or did I just not get the memo, or... ? If this is sensitive info, pardon my out-in-the-open bluntness here. My e-mailbox is open...

I was doing a Google search today for some info (actually a cover scan) on Blue Mitchell's LAST DANCE LP, and one of the links I opened was a cached page from the BNBB from 2000 (a "Jazz of the week" page discussing Mitchell's BIG SIX): http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:XFEkY...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Of course, the BNBB links on the page were all dead, but it was still kind of interesting to go back and see a page from that board again. ... and NO, I did NOT get misty.