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Not too sure it's "rock", but it's great music, and was certainly revolutionary at the time.

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WEBN in Cincinnati for a few years (1968-1970) for me. From Wikipedia: When it initially went on the air on August 31, 1967, it was owned by Frank Wood Sr., a Cincinnati attorney. WEBN broadcast classical music daytimes and an all-night jazz program. The night programming was managed by a bank of 10½-inch Scully reel to reel tape machines in an early instance of station automation. However, in the late evening hours of Saturdays and Sundays it also broadcast a program hosted by Frank's son and EBN's 1st-ever DJ Frank Wood Jr. or known by his on-air name as Dr. Michael Bo Xanadu, that show was called "The WEBN's Jelly Pudding Show". The show featured many album cuts by both popular and somewhat obscure artists, other than the recognized hit songs or radio edits, tagged "rock, jazz, folk and ragas." The program and its music proved to be so popular that the station eventually made this album oriented rock show the bulk of its programming, much to the chagrin of Frank Sr. himself.

Great buy for the two live doubles! The two studio albums are strange, but kind of interesting.

I like the extended "Love Is More Than Words or Better Late Than Never" off that same double album. Good guitar players in that iteration of the group. I listen to Love a lot, they are (he is?) a favorite.

Correct - amazing album.

'Everybody Knows This is Nowhere" from 1969. "Cowgirl in the Sand" and "Down By The River" ! Great stuff. Yeah, 'Forever Changes' is a desert island disc for me!

The title track of their 'Love Peace and Happiness' album was also extended, a full album side long. Hampton Grease Band came out in '71, and no one bought it. Guitar playing on it is really good, but the "singing"? Well... I actually like the Bloomfield and Elvin Bishop (and the Paul Butterfield) solos on "East West" quite a bit. And no one "knew" how to do them, it was unprecedented in rock. Good call on "Sister Ray" from that VU 'White Light White Heat' album. At some point it would be interesting to talk about John Handy's "Spanish Lady" from the 'Live at Monterey' album, and what influence that may have had on all of this.

Yes!

Really a different era, but great records (two 2LP sets from Fillmore East). One of the great wastes of an album side in the history of Rock, as Bryan MacLean had so many good songs already written that did not get used. I love Arthur Lee, but this was his nadir, a horrible ego trip.

"East/West" by Butterfield was the first monster, and it's great. "Live/Dead" by the Grateful Dead, "Happy Trails" by Quicksilver Messenger Service and the first Santana album are the San Francisco album's I'd call out. 'Projections' by the Blues Project (out of NYC) had "Flute Thing" on it. It did go to #1. Gotta admit, it's a very fun listen, if not exactly a masterpiece.

Yes. Jefferson Airplane,Santana, Grateful Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service, It's A Beautiful Day, Sons of Champlin, Electric Flag and other lesser groups all had a lot of extended improvisation. Not so much for Steve Miller Band, Country Joe & the Fish, and some others. Kicked off bigtime in '67-'68 for a few years, petered out in the very early 70's for the most part (though the Dead went on and on and on, of course).

Thought of that, but not sure I'd call it "extended improvisation". It's a mess, as is "Revelation" by Love, but they are indeed looong messes.

It came out after the Butterfield album, and charted much lower than the Butterfield album in the USA. I know it was a hit in the UK.

"East West" by the Butterfield Blues Band, 1966 was indeed the first record with extended improvisation AFAIK. Hard to define "hit". That Butterfield album did chart, but 'Wheels of Fire' by Cream (June 1968 release) is probably the first one that was a megahit. An onslaught followed.

Loosely speaking.... Love what my Phillies are doing! They had a great stretch without Harper after Thomson started managing them last season. Though Harper is awesome, and rightly beloved here. He's done everything right, on and off the field, since coming to Philly. Yes, Stott will move to 2B, which is his natural position. Looks like he's gonna be a good one. I really liked Segura, but they don't have a spot for him. They could use an upgrade at spare OF and some more middle relief, but looking good. Watch out for Andrew Painter in their rotation at some point in 2023. He's an incredible prospect. Should be another 3-way dogfight in the NL East if Scherzer and Verlander don't age out into rotted pumpkins overnight.

No, that's the whole tune. The album it's on sold a million copies.

I agree with you in principle. Nothing he did matches the first few albums with the original group, despite the superior technical ability of the subsequent musicians. An old Robert Christgau quote about Ray Davies (Kinks), but applies as much to Zappa's post-60's work: "Overview: the knack remains and the craft may actually have increased, but the gift has flown." Agreed it's good for a giggle, but to me, something like "Help I'm a Rock" or the "We're Only In It For The Money" album is the perfection of that genre, the latter right down to the Sgt. Pepper-esque album cover.

That's the primary appeal of this box for me.

I think the quote is referring to the 1971 Flo & Eddie band, not the amazing original group.

They didn't really try. The next year's 'The Grand Wazoo' showed what he was capable of. The 1971 band planted the seeds of the crassness and willful stoopidness which plagued him over most of the rest of his career. His 60's vocal satire was brilliant. The 70's-80's vocal stuff seemed to be one middle finger pointed at the censors, and the other middle finger pointed at the audience. I'm sure this set has occasional great music, and I find it tempting on that basis, but I don't need or want almost 3 hours of 'Billy the Mountain'.

How horrible, RIP. Had a friend in high school who died the same way. She was 16, had her whole life ahead of her.

IIRC, the notes to the Green Mosaic referred to that.

Correct! Actually came out originally on the first one (Impulse 9264), then on the second one (Impulse 9269).