The Magnificent Goldberg

Well, let’s see what’s in here, then. It was one of your BFTs that put me on to Shelley Carroll, so I’m looking forward to this one. 1 Something clearly out of the Blue Note hard bop ethic, but not necessarily from BN. Trumpet, alto, trombone front line. Oh and a tenor sax, too. Something about the alto player reminds me of Sonny Red. Tenor player sounds as if he should be one of my favourites. And the pianist, too! Bloody ‘ell, he’s a good ‘un! And off they all go into sunset across Lake Ponchartain. That drummer! Philly Joe? Slide Hampton? Probably neither, I’ve got a strong feeling this was recorded by Mainstream. 2 Same drummer! Squawky alto player I’m sure I’ve heard before. And a tenor player, and trumpeter. I think it’s not the players but the recording. Did something go wrong at about 2:50? The tenor solo seemed to disconnect like it was skipping the groove. I know the tune, too, but can’t think of it just now. 3 Bebop tenor player. Spiky little riff. Oh, now it turns into ‘Milestones’ or one of those Miles Davis tunes. No idea. No, it’s a Duke Pearson tune, ‘Jeanine’. Must have another listen before I post anything. 4 Very nice swing riff from a somewhat pre-bop trumpet player with a very bright sound. Pianist is of that generation, too, it seems. Unless it’s Donald Byrd and some French guy. Tune’s familiar but can’t place this one, either. Damn, this BFT is so good I let my cup of tea get cold! 5 Ravishing ballad played by ravishing alto player. And a poignantly acid trumpet player. I can stand a lot of this. 6 Tenor player with more than a touch of Gator Tail about him. But not Willis Jackson; sure he never recorded this ballad. Crazy start to the piano solo! It does sound like Gator on tenor. Damn nice BFT so far, Dan! Out for a ciggy. 7 Here’s a strange one. Richard Wyands on piano? Then a big band with guitarist playing a Basie (?) riff. I’m not recognising tunes today. Wild alto player. I should know him. Oh, now into Lester Leaps in. I can say with (almost) absolute certainty that I’ve never knowingly heard the guitarist before. Enthusiastic! 8 Gospelly tune with organ. Something of the feel of Freddie Roach’s ‘All that’s good’ or Donald Byrd’s ‘New perception’. Don’t know this at all. I like the tenor and guitar playing the tune together; nice sound. Jeez, I must know this tenor player. Guitarist gets better and better through his solo. Probably someone else I should know. I really don’t know the organist. 9 Organ and voices. I like this one, too. Not the foggiest. Oh, but I wonder if the guitarist could be Calvin Newborn? I wonder what the idea of the fade in the middle was? Oh, here’s an organist with a familiar approach. But this thing is so different and interesting to listen to, I don’t really think it can be anyone I know. 10 Something here makes me think of Woody Herman. Very exciting chase. 11 Bloody ‘ell, I’m not in the mood for doing anything but just listening today! I should know this tenor player. Don’t THINK I know the pianist, though I’ve heard Hamp Hawes play like this on old R&B cuts. 12 Oh, a tune I really recognise ‘I’m beginning to see the light’. But I’m not; I suspect your comments about Gene Harris might be meant to misdirect us. Is the bass player Leroy Vinnegar? 13 ‘Old devil moon’. Very quick segue into it. Nice left hand. No idea who, though. 14 ‘Ja da’, an interesting selection for a pianist to play for seven minutes. Bass player sounds like Ray Brown, so maybe this IS Gene Harris. Or maybe not. No, must be from a Ray Brown album, with Gene as featured sideman. A little research leads to 3-Dimensional. 15 Another familiar tune I don’t know. Another nice tenor player I should know but don’t. 16 Sonny Stiff! With biggish band? Well, sometimes… Oh, it’s live; well, I don’t think Sonny did live gigs with this sort of band. Still sounds like him on third listen. Now listen Dan, I’ve got lots more albums than I have time to conveniently play them, so it’s real mean of you to stuff a BFT with material I want to buy. I liked it a lot, Dan; thank you. Monday A few more ideas 3 This is someone who had a Coltrane retread in the sixties. I’m thinking of someone like Frank Foster. But the track’s too short for any of his recordings that I know. 4 Well, on second listening, I’m pretty sure this is Donald Byrd. And I’m going to guess that it’s one of his post Mizell recordings. Which I don’t know. 5 Second time around, this alto player sounded too ‘schooled’. Trumpet player still sounds really nice to me. Is this a Duke Ellington tune? 6 Is this the same trumpet player as on 5? I’m thinking more along the lines of Arnett Cobb than Gator today. 8 Damn me, but I should be able to get these guys! 9 I’m going to guess that the organ player is Joey De Francesco, because he sounds like Jimmy Smith. But it doesn’t sound like his kind of material or approach. 10 This now sounds like the Ray Charles band of the 70s, but it’s surely not because I have all that bands recordings from then (unless it’s live). I think the track ended before it quite ended, because there was no after effect (I don’t know what the word is), so I reckon you may have cut it out slightly early to avoid the applause. The yells towards the end sounded like Ray. 11 I have a feeling this may be early Harold Land. 12 I think I can hear Ray Brown again. So, is this OP? 13 I’m going to guess OP again, because of those fast run figures in the middle. But I don’t really know OP’s work very well. 15 I definitely don’t know this tenor player. 16 This STILL sounds like Stitt, but it surely can’t be. Well, when I listened today, several tracks came up with tags that didn’t appear yesterday. Dirty trick! I sampled a lot of Euge Groove tracks before deciding that you couldn’t POSSIBLY own any of his recordings and that you’d definitely put those tags on to put us off! Anyway, this has been a very nice BFT, Dan; thank you very much. MG

I like him on the albums he made with Montego Joe and Blue Mitchell Now those are proper music! MG

This afternoon Chuck Berry - After school session - Chess (Vogue France) Willis Jackson - Funky Reggae - Trip Lightnin' Slim - Rooster blues - Excello (as illustrated - a 1980s pressing) Kansas City Melodyaires - Softly the night is falling - Songbird (Not allowed to use image already posted on Organissimo!!!???) MG

Thanks to both of you. Now I've got to remember which thread it was where I was trying to split a quote and gave up MG

Well, I never got rid of it, so perhaps I'll give it another go soon. MG

'Togethering' with Grover Washington Jr is significantly less than good. MG

Yes, just tried splitting up a post. I can't see how to do it now, because you just get a picture of the post you're quoting and not an HTML line saying whose post and when, nor the HTML '

I've experienced difficulty in the past day, too. I'm using IE9. Haven't tried breaking a quote up yet, but the text box doesn't come up on the screen - have to page down to find it - and it just seems awkward to use. Trying to remove a redundant image from a quote was quite difficult. MG

Thanks - must get those - after I get the 5 Ace CDs of Fats Domino's singles, of which I don't have much - I have lots of Bland. MG

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I'm not sure that it's the age difference; hardly any people my age were into R&B/Soul/Soul Jazz in those years (actually, hardly anyone in Britain was into Soul jazz then). Those people have to be about ten/twenty years younger than YOU, Bev MG

Mentioned already, Guv A very, very good album. There was also Fatback Band - Let's do it again - Perception (George Adams' first recording, I believe) and Kool & the Gang - Wild & peaceful - DeLite - a bit mixed and you STILL hear 'Jungle boogie' all the effin' time! MG

Yes, I did a bit more thinking and remembered those two - 'DOwn to earth' and 'Mo' greens please'. Also Milt Buckner - Mighty high - Argo Leo Wright (with Gloria Coleperson) - Soul talk - Vortex Jimmy McGriff - The big band - Solid State (not particularly noticeable in this ) He was also on an organless Willis Jackson session in 1955 or 1957 (depending on whose research you believe). I keep forgetting that he did that MG

Nice thread 1973 was a pretty good year if you like soul jazz. But from the early lists, I have Stevie Wonder - Innervisions Bob Marley - Catch a fire James Brown - Black Caesar Charles Earland - Dynamite Brothers OST Funkadelic - Cosmic Slop O'Donel Levy - Simba Les McCann - Layers Jimmy McGriff & Richard Groove Holmes - Giants Of The Organ Come Together Ramon Morris - Sweet Sister Funk Pharaoh Sanders - Elevation Stanley Turrentine - Don't Mess With Mr. T Charles Earland - Leaving this planet Other wonderful stuff from '73 Maceo Parker - Us - People Harold Vick - The power of feeling - Muse Shirley Scott - Superstition - Cadet Blue Mitchell - Last tango = blues - Mainstream Jimmy POnder - While my guitar gently weeps- Cadet Mel Sparks - Texas twuster - Eastbound Gene Russell - Talk to my lady - Black Jazz George Freeman - New improved funk - Groove Merchant Illinois Jacquet & WIld Bill Davis - Illinois Jacquet with WIld Bill Davis - Black & Blue Dakota Staton - I want a country man - Groove Merchant Houston Person - The real thing - Eastbound Tiny Grimes - Profoundly blue - Muse Rusty Bryant - For the good times - Prestige Al Grey - Grey's mood - Black & Blue Bu Pleasant - Ms Bu - Muse Hank Crawford - Wildflower - Kudu BUddy Tate - and his buddies (inc ROy Eldridge, Mary Lou & Illinois) - Chiaroscuro Boogaloo Joe Jones - Black whip - Prestige Candy Johnson - Candy's mood - Black & Blue Gene Ammons - & friends at Montreux - Prestige Gene Ammons - In Sweden - Enja Arnett Cobb & Milt Buckner - Again with Milt - Black & Blue Don Patterson - These are soulful days - Muse Johnny Hammond Smith - Higher ground - Kudu Willis Jackson - West Africa - Muse Cornell DUpree - Teasin' - Atlantic Gene Ammons & Sonny Stiff - Together again for the last time - Prestige (I'm dating these by recording dates, not issue dates, which I don't know.) MG

I can't offhand think of much he did with organ except for Smith, Scott & McDuff. One without organ that's as good as 'Midnight blue' is Soul call - Prestige Ray Baretto is brill on this. And non-usual-suspect Will Davis on piano makes it v interesting. MG

Must get this. The Fred Wesley bio - 'Hit me, Fred' - is a very interesting read, too. Wonder when Pee Wee Ellis with write one? MG

Have a good 'un, Al. MG

The Organissimo version is BRILLIANT! One of the greatest Christmas or anytime. There's a thread somewhere here where you can get it. Only available as a download from the board. Don't delay! MG

Do those albums have Bland's complete Duke material? There's so much great stuff there, someone ought to do a box. MG

Yes to all the above, plus Lowell Fulson Jimmy Dawkins Buddy Guy Howlin' Wolf Otis Rush!!!!!! MG

My grandson likes this one MG

I don't think joy is a rare ingredient in any kind of music. But I suspect fun is what we hear most in the music of Louis Jordan and many others. To (probably mis)quote Cannonball, 'Fun is something that you do', whereas joy is something that fills your soul. Joy in music doesn't have to be exuberant. There's a calm joy to be found in Larry Young's 'Into something' and Grant Green's 'Remembering' (on CD as 'Standards') that I find wholly uplifting. But on the exhuberant side Joy at the Philharmonic tended to have it in spades. In particular, Illionois Jacquet at the 1944 JATP gig, but also Sonny Criss and Eddie 'Lockjaw' Davis on 'Intermission riff' (Pablo reissued by LOnehill Jazz), which was done at an early 50s JATP. Here's Big Joe - always joyful, with Sonny Criss, Hamp Hawes, Sweets Edison, Leroy Vinnegar and Bobby Thompson. (Joe comes in at 2:34). There's joy in all types of music. Try Etoile 2000's 'Boubou ngary' for exhuberant joy. MG

'People and love' is a fantastic album! Worth the price of the twofer. Features Marvin Cabell on ts. Best album Johnny Lytle made. The other album is good but not great. MG

I think cats are generally more intelligent than dogs because cats have a sense of humour. Dogs just ARE funny. All the pug owners we know say their pugs, like ours, go bonkers from time to time (like three or four times a day), and rush about the place at a great rate of knots. In our old flat, Toby had to pass by the telephone table in the hall in order to get a satisfactory insane run going. And the cat would leap onto the table and, every time he passed beneath her, reach down and give him a bop on the head - not using her claws, just taking the piss. Sarcasm is the highest form of intelligence. MG

Aha! So, is the pianist Cecil Bernard, too? MG No it isn't Bernard Oh well, I give up. MG You can't screen uncle yet. You know who all of these players are, with the exceptions of the bones player. This was the first time I ever heard him. Now I've seen who it is, I've gotta say I've never heard of any of those guys, apart from Hutcherson. I may have heard some of them, but never knowingly. See, I don't know a lot about modern jazz. MG