The Magnificent Goldberg

You mean, he was on one side of something, like the one he did with Gator? Or he never finished it and it wasn't released? MG One side of an lp with son Chico. The other side was a Marsalis family band. Ah, so he's out. Amazing. MG

It's not YOU who needs to get his post count up, Jim MG PS - speaking of which, I've just noticed I must have gone over 10,000 a week ago or so.

You mean, he was on one side of something, like the one he did with Gator? Or he never finished it and it wasn't released? MG

Fred Anderson Anthony Braxton Sun Ra MG

Without checking, what about Ritchie Cole? MG

Ah, yes. MG

I didn't know that. Thanks. MG

I doubt it. It was still owned by the guys who the Chipmunks were named after. Transamerica's acquisition is probably the changeover time. MG

Teddy Edwards would have gone in but for the fact that he made some albums for French Verve, which were released in the US on Antilles, in the eighties. Houston Person recorded two albums for Mercury in the mid seventies. Forgot about Von Freeman - shouldn't have. Dunno about Buck Hill. Good call that. MG

Make sure you get to see Ximo Tebar while you're there. Have a good time. MG

Clem - there's been some discussion, off the board, to the effect that the sound isn't all that good on this box. What's your view on that? MG PS Opal made a record in the sixties for UK Decca - if you know him, and want to embarrass him, mention Martin Hummingbird.

Sam Lazar - Soul merchant - Argo (Cadet pressing) Willis Jackson - Mellow blues - Trip (Upfront reissue) Walter Bishop - Soul village - Muse orig MG

Most of the good things I've managed to achieve in life - at work and at home - have been the result of: accident; ignorance that there were rules I should follow; or not caring to hear about rules I should follow. And I've got to say that it was mostly very enjoyable! MG

Another good pub band. MG

Wiki Thanks 7/4. MG

Aha! Can you give me idiot-proof instructions on how to listen to this, please Ghost? MG MG, it's actually going to be a repeat, so it's already archived for online listening: Say It Loud: Black-Pride Soul Jazz Do you have RealPlayer? If not, you can download a basic, free version here. EDIT: I went back and looked at the old thread for this show--I think you should just click "open". Thanks - I got Real Player last week. Now listening. But it's so extremely quiet. I almost have to put my ear to the screen. Is there a volume control? I can't see one? MG

What's a fugue, and particularly a jazz fugue, and how can you tell if one bites your ankle? I ued to have lots of MJQ at one time, but I never knew that they were fugues... I've got these... MG

Try a bit of John Ireland. There was some on Lyrita. Glad to hear it's making a comeback. MG

Aha! Can you give me idiot-proof instructions on how to listen to this, please Ghost? MG

Weren't they over £3 prior to that? (or was it £2 10s 6d ).. In any case, they cost very serious dosh back then, in relative terms. No wonder there were never too many over here - the 47W63rd/NY USA pressings in particular. Maybe the French got a bit of a price break, as there seems to be more of them over there.. Now playing Gilles Peterson 'Impressed - Vol 1' (UK Universal 2LP set, LP1). Ronnie Ross Although I still have British-bought Blue Notes from that era, I don't remember what they cost. But I do have an imported Riverside (Monk's Music) from the late 60s on which you can still see 42/- written faintly in pencil! Blue Notes were 57/6 (£2.875) in the early sixties. Riverside/Jazzland were, as Bill noted, 42/- (£2.10). British manufactured popular 12" LPs (inc jazz) were 32/- (£1.60). After Doug Dobell set up BN UK, the price came down to 45/- (£2.25), which was very competitive with what Riverside had been sold for (though they'd gone bust quite a while by 1967). And UK manufactured LPs had gone up in the meantime - though I can't remember the price in '67; something like 37/6 (£1.875) I guess. Buying a Blue Note in the early sixties was a bit like buying a Rolls Royce - you knew you were getting top quality, but at a price that hardly anyone could afford. There was no competition when it came to choosing between Jimmy Smith or Ray Charles; Ray won all the time. We used to take two LPs into the listening booths at HMV in Oxford Street, listen to the Jimmy Smith and buy the other. I'm sure the guys behind the counter knew what my mates and I were up to, but they didn't mind. So, if you've got original monos of "Midnight special", "Back at the Chicken Shack", "All day long" or "Home Cookin'" which you bought in Britain, watch out! It could have had my sticky teenaged fingers all over it! MG PS as I recollect, Jazz Journal used to state the price of each record reviewed. PPS for comparison, my wages when I started work in 1960 were £3.95 a week.

Under her own name? I thought those records were made with other leaders like Teddy Wilson. If not, I sit corrected. Coltrane recorded for Impulse. It may have been RUN as if it was an indie, but it wasn't. MG

I paid forty quid for Sam Lazar's "Space flight" orig mono in good nick, back in the early eighties. Been looking for it for fifteen years, never had a sniff at it. And those were the days when the DJs were buying all this stuff, so that's what I paid. Happily. MG

Could this thread become as long as that one? MG

Another in the same vein, inspired By GA Russel's post responding to Chas' question I wonder how many musicians have had long recording careers but NEVER recorded as a leader or co-leader for a major. Some definitions 1 Timescale? In order to avoid the multiplicity of companies operating in the twenties and thirties, I'm thinking of musicians whose recording careers STARTED after 1936, when independent record companies began to be formed again after the Depression. 2 Timescale 2? A long recording career is one that lasts twenty years or more and prodices at least 15 albums (or the equivalent in 78s and albums). 3 What is a major? Victor and its successors (RCA, BMG etc) ARC and its successors (Columbia etc) Decca and its successors (MCA etc) (including the original parent company in UK) EMI and its successors (including Capitol post 1956) Philips and its successors Polydor and its successors Warner Bros and its successors (inc Atlantic after 1973) MGM and its successors (including Verve after 1960) Mercury and its successors ABC/Impulse Several people I thought would be included made an album or two for a major that one tends to forget about - Houston Person made two for Mercury, or he'd be in the list. Sonny Stitt made two for Impulse and a couple for Verve when it was owned by MGM, but otherwise, he'd be in the list too. So would Jug, but for those same two Verve albums. And Lou Donaldson made one album for Columbia. First one I thought of that I think is right is Al Grey then Jimmy Forrest (naturally comes to mind) Nat Adderley Don Patterson John Patton Hank Crawford Jack McDuff Etta Jones Johnny "Hammond" Smith Richard "Groove" Holmes Red Holloway Harold Mabern Rhoda Scott Red Garland Horace Parlan I'm not sure about Lester Young Billie Holiday That'll do for a starter. I'm sure I haven't plumbed the depths. MG

That's a good one! I wonder how many HAVEN'T recorded for a major. Quite a number of groups have been mentioned. I listed this bunch of jazz groups: The Blackbyrds - Fantasy Brass Fever - Impulse Freedom Sounds - Atlantic Funk Inc - Prestige Fuse One - CTI Members Only - Muse Organissimo - Big O Players Association - Vanguard The Real Thing - Real Thing Three of a Kind - Minor Music Swingin' Sweded listed Rampart Street Paraders (3½ albums for Columbia) The Three Souls (3 albums for Argo) Modern Jazz Disciples (2 albums for New Jazz) JFK Quintet (2 albums for Riverside) To which I think we can add African Jazz Pioneers (Gallo) (perhaps GarthSJ can confirm this) Essence All Stars (Hip Bop Essence) And a few more individual musicians Melton Mustafa (Contemporary) And a real obscure one - a late friend Benny Simpkins (Flyright) MG