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Wasn't aware of that forum, will have a look, thanks! I gather you've posted your faves there? And yes, I'd love to discuss this all in person with you over a beer or a glass of wine or whatever ... we'll make it some day!

Thanks for the explanations, Mike! I'm at a point where what matters to me isn't concepts (or ideology) but whether or not I like what I hear. That may change or it may not. Anyway, HIP is always just an attempt to recreate something unknown and unheard and as such remains speculation. As with all historical research, what matters is how good the arguments (and questions asked) are, and how valid the drawn conclusions. Seems HIP performance has evolved quite a bit over the past fifty of so years, too. But as I said, at this point I don't care that much. But it sounds like you reached a point where there's hardly a way "back" (to non-HIP performances, that is), at least in some areas? Not sure I want to ever go there, as it would mean giving up too many things I fell dearly in love with in the past eight or nine months. But then if you're there, of course it doesn't feel like a loss, it's just the way things go ... When you say though: "There are many factors in performance practice to be considered - even HIp players miss on several of them in many cases!" - in light of such (certainly true) evaluations, I'm really hard-pressed to go with anything else by my personal likes and dislikes as a guide through the huge jungle of recordings out there. Or rather: I'm willing to try many things and travel many places, but I won't trust but the music in the end, and I'll always be questioning anything beyond that, trying to put things into perspective (which is historical and evolving, hence there are no truths). Guess that's just how I work, after all. Sorry for this excourse, folks

yes indeed! also the albums with Booker Ervin! and with Roland Hanna and Mel Lewis, he formed one of the finest big band rhythm sections, too!

Well, I guess they're somewhat bigger there than usual, but I'd assume if they produce 5000 copies of this, it will easily be available for a few years.

Mike told me he's not that interested in string quartets, so I doubt he'll post here. Oh, I wasn't aware of that!

Every jazz release is limited to a few thousand copies anyway, so ...

Very cool! Good to see the entire "Mister Kelly's" restored, the recent Original omitted - as they always do - the bonus material.

The most recent master of the album is quite good. If I'm not mistaken the actual album tracks aren't really on this release as originally released. . . . Yes, that's my understanding. The album was doctored by Ed Michel (good job!) and those versions are not part of the new set which releases the entire session in running order.

It was too long for me to read (and even though the site is mighty fine, I find it hard on the eyes), but yes, it does indeed sound pretty intriguing!

I'm slowly growing to appreciate those differences (without being able to tell them though, just listening), and I've gained plenty from these HIP-threads you started, so I'll shut my mouth know and wait for mikeweil to drop by with some recommendations that might be of interest to me as well!

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time for a link to the Jimmy Garrison thread - some very interesting discussion there:

Okay, sorry - didn't know, didn't check ... but anyway, it's all fiction, isn't it? Some is better than other, some more plausible, times change, knowledge changes. And many "modern" violins are 300 years old, it seems

The Lumières box from Harmonia Mundi has two Haydn quartets by the Jerusalem Quartet - not sure they're HIP though, and haven't listened yet, but ...

http://jazzwestcoastresearch.blogspot.ch/2013/01/jazz-masquerade-unmasked-this-research.html

DHL sucks! Swiss post had them do the door delivery for international parcels for a while. They'd always come when no one's home, you'd arrange for a second delivery a day or two after, they'd pull a no show and instead come one day later or some such ... seems Swiss post had so many complaints that they themselves are doing all door deliveries again, DHL is kept away from contact with customers (unless of course you're using DHL as a courier, but we're talking of regular postal services partly sourced out to DHL here).

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Thanks to this thread I pushed myself over the edge finally, spending big bucks (33 eurozlotys) on a new copy of the Japanese reissue of "In the World" ... I'd heard it before, but damn this is good! Might indeed be my favorite Jordan, all things considered! I guess the Mingus experience did open up a few things for him, after all, though he always sounds like he was the most conservative member of that band -- well, that's after Johnny Coles was out ... the sextet is different than the quintet, I think ... and Jordan plays some great sh*t, don't get me wrong! Anyway, the band on "In the World" is one of the best he ever led ... love Priester and the twin basses and well, love everything about this album! Great to hear Kelly outside his comfort zone, too. This music goes straight to the guts yet there's lots of food for the mind, too.

If the intention is to do FLAC for archiving/backup purposes, I'd strongly recommend using EAC, with the "secure mode" set up properly. You'll get WAV that way, which can then be converted to FLAC of course.

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Don't know these but: 1) There's a fairly nice, rehearsal-like album by Lacy and Evans which does make me interested in Konitz/Evans 2) You'll need more Konitz/Solal, get the hat disc "Star Eyes"! (There are quartet albums around, too, a double disc/reissue on CAM and a fine one on Steeplechase) 3) There's a duo album of Konitz with Michel Petrucciani (on Owl, as is the Lacy/Evans) - unlikely, but it does work!