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in addition to Stereojacks little Blue Note list, there's also Lee Morgan's "The Rajah" (I know many don't like it), and Stanley Turrentine's "Comin' Your Way". Also I'm not sure though when those came out first: the first Blue Mitchell album and those Grant Green w/Sonny Clark albums.

ok, one that's not off topic now: Lucky Thompson's marvellous Candid album, released first in its entirety in the 80s, I think (one title was on one of those samplers):

the Phillip Morris Superband... but they (and Gene Harris, too) are much too tasty for the über-hip crowd here anyway...

The Plugged Nickel stuff must be among the very best! Though I don't know when the first album culled from those sets was actually released.

The Fantasy Beat 4CD box "Howls, Raps & Roars" includes a full disc of Lenny Bruce (which of course I don't understand at all...). Not sure if that was originally on Fantasy. Some of the other stuff included is mighty fine - the Ginsberg "Howl" album, stuff by Rexroth, Ferlinghetti, Corso etc. (no comedy of course). Edit: newbury is still offering it for 16$ via amazon.com

Interesting read, thanks! Particularly that second point about the Dizzy big band of the 40s!

Speaking of trombone players... Nils Wogram heads a trio with just organ (Florian Ross) and drums (Dejan Terzic), which he calls "Nostalgia Trio". They're quite good! (And Wogram is a friggin' great 'bonist, believe me!) Christophe Schweizer who has several projects going on, leads one with tb (Schweizer), ts (Ohad Talmor), organ (Sam Bar Sheshet) and drums (Tyshawn Sorey), called "Full Circle Rainbow". He also did a CD with that title (on TCB) with the line-up of Talmor, Jason Moran or George Colligan (both organ exclusively, only one appearing at the time), and Billy Hart. Not a bad disc, but "Physique" (OmniTone, with Alex Sipiagin, Donny McCaslin a.o. and off topic in this thread) is much, much better!

I saw Chaurasia live again a couple of weeks ago - great experience, as always! He still has plenty of power and well - fire is the wrong word, but imagination and sometimes a youthful exuberance totally denying his age. It took him quite a while to get warm though, but then he played for about two hours or more, and in the break someone sold home-made samosas... good Sunday morning entertainment! Will have to dig up the few discs of his I have and play them again.

just Rhoda & Klook - and a great disc! currently Barbara Dennerlein also seems to mostly work in a duo format, but then she has all kinds of midi stuff hooked up to her organ - I'm not much of a fan of hers.

and of course once I hit the "add reply" button the fitting word comes to mind: "appropriation", that's what it's about, power of definition - in the end it's about self-empowerment by appropriation - or some such...

Allen has a good and valid point here indeed. You can still feel uncomfortable about it, but many of these significants have been turned by the signified groups themselves into terms of other meanings. It's about having power over symbols and signs and signifying words. And hence about taking power and re-define ones own identiy or re-use, adapt, take possession of the word(s) and include them in how ones own identity is defined by the group in question. A very powerful issue... I bet reading some Judith Butler and similar stuff would help (or wait... possibly not, unless you really feel like working with her texts... and of course her writings are ex cathedra no matter what else she pretends... all rather compilcated). Not sure I can really add anything to this thread, just wanted to point out that I did some studying on this subject a little while ago, and that indeed Allen's point is valid AND important (as far as social developments and shifting cultural identities are concerned).

How about that Cannonball Capitol album that was first released on CD a few years ago, "Money in the Pocket":

Have been looking myself and have yet to see any Euro-deals on this one. Similarly the Quincy Jones. Still time though (he says, hopefully). The Quincy I found at a local store for a bit less than what Mosaic would ask (and of course minus shipping and customs, and with a future 10% reward if I continue shopping at that store... they let you cash in 10% after you shopped for some amount, and nicely sales items are included, as those are usually all I still pick up at local shops... anyway, it's excellent, lots of good playing by all the stellar man in the band! (But don't tell chauncey or there'll be another multi-post pissing contest by the oh-so-hip...)

His 1988 Timeless album "Selena's Dance" is the only leader date I have (hm, no, I think one album of that Alexander/Hubbard/Mathews Fantasy twofer was also his date, no?), will have to play it again but I remember it being rather good:

Indeed. Wasn't it about $30 Euro-zlotties? And they were even doing $30 Mosaics back then too ! Yup, I think it was 30... still waiting for a good offer on the Buddy Rich Mosaic - not one acceptable prize in sight on the various European Amazon sites... was that ever on sale someplace? I mean really on "sale"...

Universal version: Amazon.de (192 euro!!!) Amazon.fr (141 euro...) No cheap marketplace offers on either place, nor on amazon.co.uk which doesn't sell it itself, any longer...

Phillips did a lovely album again for "Verve" (or rather the UMG or Vivendi or whatever corporation) in the late 90s, "Swing's the Thing": I love the Phillips/Ventura Mosaic, tons of great music on that one! Should take it out again! Oh, and what about Kid Ory on Verve? Did Verve do more dixieland stuff? Similar to the Living Legends series or those Atlantic albums on the respective Mosaic?

The Miles was discussed before, do a search! (I think the thread was started by EKE BBB, that might help finding it!)

char-don-nay? I'll have to check my list, but I don't think I have any Frankly Jazz that haven't been mentioned here already. They seem to be pretty rare in trading circles. Ah well, the Amy seems to be the only one I have... though I might have some more but the info wouldn't be logged to my files in that case. Sorry!

some of that Prokofiev stuff off the Nelson Mosaic (from Jimmy Smith's Peter & the Wolf) - has been haunting me since I played it on Sunday... holy crap, those little themes and leitmotivs are great! next up: "Come Together" from Lynne Arriale's disc of the same title (plus likely also "Iko Iko" from the same disc... I know a couple of extremely infectuous live version of the later tune already, the CD version will play in a few minutes...)

Ah shit, of course it's "Creole Love Call"! Great tune! I love those early Ellington tunes, but I keep mixing them up!

ok, finally... as usual, one listen only, typed while listening, away from my collection, not googling or searching AMG, just some impressions - generally a very enjoyable disc, thanks a lot! #1 - Lovely opener, great groove set up by bass and guitar, sort of a ZA vibe. The soprano is a bit tame but has a nice, kind of restrained sound that gets quite singing at some spots (whenever it gets less airy, whispery). Guitar really puts its stamp on this, in a good way. The piano solo is nice, not leading places I think, but it fits the mood. Guitar similar, but I like it somewhat better... I like it quite a bit, actually! That light groove is cool, too... that's a non-US or rather ZA thing, too, methinks... it grooves quite some, but it's always very light, airy almost. #2 - Ogun? Well, not really, but organ... what's that tune again, reminds me of some standard, but it's only built on similar changes, I guess... Pretty nice, also the entry of the alto, flexible sound, not the fat kind I prefer, but attractive enough. I don't think I have this, but I like it, it's nice'n'easy, but not much different from tons of similar stuff I'd say... guitar solo is pretty, that twanging stuff and some other things remind me of someone but don't ask me who... second sax solo, hm, this should be the give away, gruff tenor... Ike Quebec? Is this from one of those JOS sessions on the "Open House/Plain Talk" twofer? Long time I played it... but that wasn't J-Mac on alto?! Ah well, 's nice! Could well be JOS, methinks, that almost clean sound is good... it gets grittier during the second solo though, but only in spots (I like JOS best when let loose and in really wild fashion, like on "Groovin' at Small's"). #3 - Crap, what's this tune? Not sure where I know it from, but I think it's some soul tune, originally? I might have played it in some big band years ago... groovy, that's for sure! Sax starts in a terrific way, lots of space, few notes, a bit of a swagger her and there... and in between the guitar (too low in the mix at the beginning, alas) - lovely stuff! Could be Stanley T? Holy crap, if only I was able to pin some specific memory to that bass line, drives me mad! Ah, now I know, it's Gene, the tune was done by Ellery Eskelin in his great homage to Jug ("The Sun Died"), Marc Ribot played the lick there (Wollesen on drums completed the trio). But is this really Gene? I'm confused... #4 - Ooooh, now we're talkin'! Ducal stuff, lovely! Clarinet (and of course as is the case here, bass clarinet) is such a marvellous instrument, too bad it's heard so little and when, then often in such polished clean swift manner, not the warm breathy wooden sound used here. Lovely tune, but as so often while knowing it I can't identify it... East St. Louis Toodle-oo? #5 - Hm, quite a change of pace, but this again sounds very familiar... early JB? I have this one a best of compilation - I like his music but I'm put off by the extreme macho-ism oozing out of almost every second of it... yeah, that's him, nice. Likely from the 50s, with Roy Byrd? Ok, there goes Maceo... nice! Yes, indeed, I like this one a lot! What I can't really take too much of at a time is the sweating, loud, wild, funky, whatever you call it, JB, but this kind of stuff is glorious! #6 - Pretty wild, huh? Hymnical post-Coltrane stuff in an organ way? Alas, the organ sound during the opening rubato part sounds too much like a church organ for my liking (but I guess that was exactly the point...). This might have been good in a live concert, but as a recording at least for me, it doesn't work that well. Not that it's bad, but it's long, and the drum solo isn't that necessary, in my opinion... it's messy and dirty and funky and that's all cool, but it's a rough and unedited (read: self-editing, not turning some buttons and cutting out stuff after the fact). #7 - Not much I can say about this - not that it's bad, but not one that really grabs me all that much.

Free, but I will sell booklets for $150. Send in the clowns, then...

Happy Birthday to Late & Face of the Bass (& to everyone who celebrated their birthday in the past few weeks, during which I never posted in any b-day threads, apologies!)

char-don-nay? I'll have to check my list, but I don't think I have any Frankly Jazz that haven't been mentioned here already. They seem to be pretty rare in trading circles.