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yesterday: disc 2-4 of the Elvin Jones Mosaic (all three albums with Wilbur Little on bass plus the first with the new band w/Gene Perla and Dave Liebman) - fantastic! now: Harry James Capitol recordings (discs 5-7 of the Krupa/James box) - rather nice, didn't expect to like it that much... to be followed by disc 3 of the Woody Herman, I think... will see.

gee what a useless thread, haven't we seen and said all before...

you're probably right, porcy - anyway I wasn't accusing you of cynicism! mike, I haven't read that, no... maybe next year after I'll get university done... will take a note!

I've had "Lighthouse At The Laguna" for a while - nice one, with varying line-ups. Picked up several others in my couple of Concord panic buying feasts but haven't played all of them yet... definitely lots of nice music, nothing earth-shattering, but if you enjoy folks such as Bob Cooper, Bud Shank, Bud Freeman a.o. blowing, you'll like most of the discs, I assume. Sonny Clark is on piano on one of the sets, by the way (done in 54, before he went east).

but that is one point that is almost completely neglected in those german papers I read sometimes (SZ) or regularly (FAZ, Die Zeit) - and in fact I find it quite distressing. I really hope that in the circumstances of Germany in the 60s and 70s, I wouldn't have turned into a "Sympathisant", but then who know, under those circumstances... interesting though to see what happens at BKA right now - very positive a developmet, even it much too late.

It works for me, Porcy. MG yeah, and you can be cynical and say thus issues such as the one discussed here aren't disturbing, or you can let thing get a bit closer to you (at least you can do that in our comfortable, non-endangered, position) and allow yourself to be shocked... hence the cynical part of us would say it's a luxury of civilisation to be shocked by such things... but I hope to never turn that cynical on such important issues.

"us" meaning mankind, not "me and others" - I'm not sure I would survive any of this, and somehow I'm glad about that.

I chose the thread's title in order not to downplay the issue... would be much easier to discuss this in german but then it would end up in a monologue, so... It *is* a distressing fact to me, each time I witness it again, that human beings have this ability to compensate, to behave in a make-believe civilised way no matter in what circumstances... but then possibly that's just some kind of darwinist trait that helps us survive, even in the grim surroundings of concentration camps or wherever.

I just got a shipping confirmation for the "Trio and Quintet" Ogun (incl. "Border Crossing" and "Marcel's Muse" - too bad he needed to die before I jumped for a leader disc of his... but then I really will have to consider a buying stop for several months soon, so... thanks for your recommendation, ep1! I'm sure I'll enjoy it a lot - nothing with Miller/Moholo so far that I haven't liked a lot! Thanks for posting the obits, too!

seems after looking through scholar.google.com hits for a quarter of an hour, all I'm interested in is actually on JSTOR... except for the books, but they not including bibliographies and only partial introductions aren't of any use... I'll explore some more, though, thanks!

I don't know if this has made the news in the US but it's worth having a look here: http://www.ushmm.org/research/collections/...ghts/auschwitz/ I will not post any of the photos here - go have a look at them yourself. It's all quite unsettling, to say the least. A parallel world, kind of... yet somehow I guess it's normal again, too... Borowski's stories give a shocking eye-witness account of a sort of normality even among the prisoners (granted he was a political prisoner, not a Jew). source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/arts/des...m0S6jEZvdQQsSsg By the way: no, this shouldn't be in the political section, in my opinion.

again, why do you use jstor instead of scholar.google.com for searching? i thought it contained jstor plus a lot more...? because it gives you too much nonsense? Haven't tried scholar.google.com - didn't know it existed... anyway, JSTOR gives me access to the actual texts, I can save them as PDFs (if logged in to the VPN-client of my university, but I can do that from home). Will check that google thing out tomorrow, though!

finished the Bill Evans "Secret Sessions" box - so glad I got this one before it was too late (is it, by now? I got it from newbury, I think, some months ago...)

Yes, I quickly went through the other engines. JSTOR is the best by far, but it ends around 2000/2001, for never entries it seems for my area Project Muse is best, but then they duplicated most of the older stuff and had lots of hits in there that had absolutely no connection to my search... anyway, the others all didn't help me a lot as they're not really strong on historical materials...

just finished disc 6 - great box!

weirdest thread I ever started, bringing it back up with a weirdo request to all you academics with experience in searching articles in those online databases: after over a day of going through dozens of pages of hits in JSTOR, I am quite fed-up and not sure it's worth going through others of these databases (I have access to Peridicals Archive Online, Project Muse, Science Direct, SpringertLink, and Central and Eastern European Online Library). I'm still on this topic of the thread, hence I'm using this thread for my request, instead of starting a new one... any of the historically or otherwise scientifically educated folks here can tell me if JSTOR sort of covers it all or if I have to go through the other search engines for another week or so? I gave a short at Periodicals Archive Online, and the first bunch of hits I all had from JSTOR already, which made me doubt...

Criss & Cross Nutty & Epistrophy Monk & Nellie Lady & Day Don Quixote & Rosinante (or Sancho & Pansa?)

after being through with the Fantasy set up to disc 8, it's the "Secret Sessions" now. Disc 3, continuing with the 1967 dates right now!

rest in peace great post, ep1! I am a bit in the same boat as Nate - have heard Osbourne on sideman appearances, both albums and live shows, and always enjoyed his playing there, but I'm not familiar with any of his own recordings.

still the Evans Fantasy box, about to finish the second quintet date right now

Playing the "Alone (Again)" session for the first time. Wow! Some intensely swinging piano on the first tracks (incl. "In Your Own Sweet Way"), then there's that old favourite again, "What Kind of Fool Am I" (also done on the Milestone solo session). Very nice, so far, and some more proof if needed, that Bill could swing, even playing solo! Last night I finally delved some into the "Secret Sessions" box, playing the material from 1966 with drummer Arnie Wise and Eddie Gomez (Teddy Kotick on the very first session). Very good stuff, too! Definitely glad I got the set! (But OK's liners, including him stylizing himself to the second musical authority just after Helen Keane... man, that guy is so full of shit! I am thankful for all the great albums he produced and for the artists he supported with Riverside in longtime partnerships, like Wes, Cannonball, Monk, Bill Evans, but hey, if there hadn't been any great artists around, there'd be no OK... while he always makes it sound as if he's an equal partner in all the musicians' oeuvre... even beyond the period he actually supervised their recording sessions, in this case...)

Last night: Bill Evans - The Secret Sessions - the 1966 sessions (discs 1, 2 and a bit of 3) Now: Bill Evans - Complete Fantasy Recordings - "Alone (Again)" (disc 5/6)

on the other hand, being the bearer of such a weird name might be suspect... maybe they think it's a Jewish Ethiopian name, camouflaging my Muslim identity... I better get a shave now before I leave the apartment, one never knows what's waiting around the corner...

I don't exist in the US... I hope that will spare me from being sent to Gitmo because of likeliness with someone else's name...

still I find it very weird - orderd in March - my credit card expired at end of March - I kept the order open, knowing the discs were hard to find and I was patient - in July or August, I started writing them mails, earliest I still have in my sent folder is from Aug. 16 - I write to two addresses - I start this thread today - I write to that other address today, too - I send ten or twelve times the same mail again today to the two other addresses, sort of losing my temper just a tiny little bit - I get a reply today from one of the addresses I've been writing to at least for a month now, on and off pretty lame, huh? and why do they answer today, do they read organissimo?