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up! did they just disappear?

I quite like the cello - O.P. is fine, but most notable would be, I think, Erik Friedlander (great solo disc "Maldoror"), but that's a whole different area than Watkins or Carter... I quite like the Dolphy dates with cello, for sure. There's a weirdness that gets otherworldly in some spots (think "Weird Nightmare" or some of the early 50s Gil Mellé sides from his very first 10 incher on Blue Note).

Bumping this thread up again! I love Doug Watkins a lot! In fact he's one of my very favourite bassists active in the years of hardbop, his sound and lines contribute greatly to many a Prestige session he's on. I think I first heard him on "The Cats" by Flanagan/Burrell/Coltrane/Sulieman, but of course he's on more than just a bunch of my CDs... many james by Coltrane, Gene Ammons and others, and most notably he's great on a couple of Savoy albums, too, one that comes to mind being "Introducing Lee Morgan". Anyway, I just recently bought his sole leader entry in the OJC/Fantasy catalogue, "Soulnik". Watkins is playing cello there exclusively, with Yusef Lateef (mostly on flute, but he does some great blues playing on oboe - no tenor for a change), Hugh Lawson, Herman Wright and Lex Humphries (so actually it's a Lateef group hired by Watkins). Watkins - so speak the liners - had just played a cello for the first time in his life three days prior to the session and sounds quite good on it (some intonation problems/weirdnesses here and there... fingerings aren't the same as on double bass, it seems). This most definitely is one to get fast (I assume the other bassist-led dates too: the one by Wilbur Ware and the three by Sam Jones - I got them all by now, the Ware is great, with Griffin & John Jenkins on saxes), before OJCs have all disappeared. Ron Carter's "Where" with Dolphy is somewhat similar (cello with flute/bass clarinet) and comes recommended, too - it's also part of the 9CD Complete Prestige box of Dolphy's. While I like this album (the Watkins, that is), it's also kind of a lost opportunity, or rather a memento of how short Watkins' life and career have been, since he never did a similar album as a leader where he was completely in charge of things, and playing his great bass... (the Transition album is rather kind of a Silver/Blakey/Byrd thing to me - not bad, but it goes along with plenty of similar dates from the mid fifties)

Yeah, and I haven't even got hold of a single one of the Dickerson's yet... stacked up the Golson, the two Mellés (act fast if you want them!), the Jimmy Woodes, the Joe Gordon, now waiting for the Barry Harris and Lock/Griff... and there's still a bunch of things, like Gigi Gryce, Don Friedman, Griffin, etc. etc. that I'd like to have! A thought that occurs to me again and again, upon hearing the newly acquired discs, is how fine they all are, most notable almost each and any Riverside album, but also many, many Prestige sides are just as good as all the hyped Blue Note stuff! And Blue Notes are still so easy to find in sales again and again here, I really feel bad about buying so many of them in the past years while neglecting the OJC/Fantasy catalogue!

just got the shipping confirmation for the herman!

tricks of the trade: djangos has lots still there, new and some new & used, also on US amazon, newbury_comics is great - they always delivered!

I just received this CD: It includes the complete 'Round Midnight LP as well as Hear! Now! - at a total running time of less than 70 minutes. Kirk Felton's remastering sounds great - get this, it is still available, and skip the RVG. You get twice as much music at a better price per minute. Including this in the RVG series is nonsense. p.s.: You would miss some great Jerome Richardson when skipping the Hear! Now! album! In short: fuck Concord! I bought so many OJCs of late, I'm constantly broke and have overdrawn my account/cc... it really sucks what's happening there, too many things keep just disappearing and not one wee bit of information about it.... I still remember reading here that no no, we won't touch the catalogue, ha ha... of course some never believed it... I wish I wouldn't have had the attitude that the OJCs keep being around forever for so long, now it's quickly getting too late on too many great titles!

"French Ballads" is very nice! (Thanks once again, brownie!) The Anniversary or Heritage or whatever series of Universal France contains a Graillier/Jean-Marie (another good one!) disc, but I think that's a synth affair, haven't heard it, however:

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Just got the mail that finally the new disc by Maria Schneider, titled "Sky Blue", has been shipped my way! The disc is available via Schneider's website here: http://www.mariaschneider.com/ I am quite sure it will be a great one, judging on the last album I have heard ("Concert in the Garden") and a bunch of fairly recent live broadcasts, too!

I'd be interested, Chuck (and Lon), in what are the really good parts, too! I think for a change here's a Mosaic going OOP that I will not order and not miss that much, but I'd be looking for the better parts of it separately, eventually!

"Mating Call", yes! Some of the best Trane from that year (1956) and one of the albums I had early in the game... reminds me of two other albums/groups of recordings that probably influenced me a bit: "The Cats" (Flanagan/Burrell/Coltrane with forgotten/unsung Idrees Sulieman and the great Doug Watkins) - the calypso is nice, the long blues is terrific and was one of the earlier examples of funky hardbop that I really dug (I still love the sound of Watkins - he's just as great as Chambers, but he never had that much exposure and died way too early... Mingus picking him for "Oh Yeah" is all the proof you need for his greatness!) The other is the Dameron/Navarro material. I'm still not sure I "get"/"feel" Navarro (I don't dislike him, don't get me wrong), but Dameron is an artist I enjoyed a lot, early on... the Blue Note 2CD set is great, the live sessions are just as good, no matter if with Fats or not, Allen Eager provides lots of interesting spots there, too! Other influential music was by Abdullah Ibrahim (everyone who got my BFT will know that by now) - "African Marketplace", the KAZ sampler "African Horns", "African Sun" (by Ibrahim again), then also the great live trio set from 1996, "Yarona". He was one of the first artists (jazz, that is) I saw live, and I loved that late 90s solo recital I saw very, very much. Still keep it in memory as a very touching experience of beauty and soul. (It seems he's gotten old after that... "Yarona" is a high point, and I think that last one I am aware of... I never enjoyed an album or a concert - saw him twice more, with Max and with his trio - nearly as much as I did with the solo concert and "Yarona".)

or these: but since I can't see them I can't hear them, right?

I'm not deep, but I prefer these...

I'm not old, I don't drive, but possibly I'm bad - am I allowed to post here? Oh, and I'm bored at work, too... as if you'd have noticed...

a bunch I forgot: CT - Nefertiti (the Revenant 2CD set!) Charles Mingus - Presents Charles Mingus - Black Saint & the Sinner Lady Charles Mingus - the April 1964 concerts Max Roach - Freedom Now Suite Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus Monk - the BN box Bud - the BN box Herbie Nichols - the BN box Bill Evans - Portrait in Jazz Coltrane - anything, anytime, anywhere! All of these influenced my way of listening to music and keep influencing it... most recent experience: I *finally* dug Wilbur Ware's greatness when playing Griffin's "Way Out" a few days ago, for the first time! So now I'll have to revisit the Rollins Vanguard sides and maybe after that they'll make the list, too...

I won't explain either... I don't think in terms of albums, really - rather it's a constant process. And I couldn't name five, the following list is just a small part: Miles Davis - Cookin' (first jazz album I really dug - there's the explanation) Coltrane - Ascension Mingus - Ah Um Dolphy - Out to Lunch Miles - Bitches Brew Hendrix - Band of Gypsies Brötzmann/Drake - Dried Rat Charlie Parker - the complete Savoy 5LP set Lester Young - each and every side I ever heard Billie w/Lester (all of it, too!) Miles - Isle of Wight DVD Ray Charles - The Great Ray Charles Terry Riley - in C (LP dub on tape, no idea what recording it was... an old one, for sure) Archie Shepp - In San Francisco Ayler - probably not Spritual Unity... Hilversum Session? who cares... AYLER! Jimmie Lunceford - some of the Decca sides (thanks to brownie I've got the whole run of Lunceford's MoJs now!) Andrew Hill - the Mosaic set (no particular session, the twin basses & Hutch quartets, the KD/Dolphy/Joe Hen session... all of it!) Tristano/Konitz/Marsh - the Mosaic set (maybe except the Konitz sides, I knew Lee before from the effin' great "Motion") As I said, a very incomplete list... and concerts witnessed might have had even a greater influence, in the end anyway!

He did and the result is not bad at all. Yeah, not bad, but it's still one of the clinkers in CTs discography, all in all - go for "The Willisau Concert" (Intakt) if you want to hear him in a terrific solo performance! And on topic: been there, done that - there's the search function that's working again! I remember recommending the Lewis/Jones myself, in an earlier thread, also "Our Delight" by Jones/Flanagan. I can sort of see Chuck's point... and why on earth would you want even more notes played than Peterson does? Ok, it's Basie who plays only few himself... I guess OP fills up the gaps?

That's the Burghausen gig, yes? Got that off the air (as well as a few others, thanks to dime). She's great! Alas I missed a solo appearance of hers in Zurich some months ago.

Except for the stupid outer box, the Jelly Roll 8CD set is nice, too. Two long-book digi-packs, fold-up, holding four CDs each, a rather big booklet, plus a paperback edition of the Jelly Roll book. You also get a PDF transcript of the whole shebang on disc 8 - I made a nice printout and had it bound in a copyshop - won't fit anywhere inside the book, but for us non-native speakers it's much easier to understand the mumbling if we can read it at the same time, too... (I know about the sound discussion, but I don't care, just in case... no audiophile ears here, alas!)

My copy arrived today (CD copy, that is, LP is alreaday OOP it seems, but I would have gone for CD anyway). After a first listen, it's clearly a bit Thanks for mentioning this here!

Didn't you get a burn of this from a friendly O. poster? Yes, of course Anyway, I'd still buy a good-sounding CD reissue of this great album! (I keep feeling slightly bad having CDRs of albums that come back in print... can't help it...)

sent in an order for the Herman... ouch! not sure I need the Jazz Piano Moods set... and somewhat sad to see this one go so fast when much more interesting sets have taken ages only to time out... on the other hand, it's from 2000 so it's not that fast, but to me still any set with a number of 200 or higher is new (this is 199).

Ha (BB) beat me to it... just wanted to post that Mingus thing, too - a hilarious read!