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if you want to hear Mangelsdorff's band *really* tearing it up, in a live-recorded, free flow set, get this one: enja CD 2006-2 Albert Mangelsdorff tb Heinz Sauer ts Günther Lenz b Ralf Hübner dr titles: 1 Swing & Swing 2 Open Space 3 Mahüsale 4 Triple Trip Producer: Horst Weber originally produced for three blind mice in Tokyo Supervisor: Takeshi 'Tee' Fujii Engineer: Yoshihiko Kannari Rec. Date: February 15th, 1971 Location: DUG, Tokyo Cover Photos: Hozumi Nakadaira Cover Design: Ben Nishizawa © & (p) 1972 enja records horst weber gmbh source of info: http://jazzrecords.com/enja/2006.htm It seems to be available still... I bought my copy a couple of months ago! By this time, the group had done away with all the fun structures (of any kind, melodical, rhythmical, how a song is built up etc) that makes their early two albums (Tension & Now Jazz Ramwong) so great. They're off into a different territory, but in my opinion, this disc is just as great!

here you'll find all the info!

Ah, ok! I have the Vogue Hodeir disc... pretty interesting stuff! Same goes for the two Hodeir discs in the JiP series (he's not billed as leader on one of them, it's #70 and #97).

Volume 5 has music from: 'Cette Sacrée Gamine' (a Brigitte Bardot film) by Henri Crolla and Hubert Rostaing, 'Une Parisienne' (BB again) by Crolla and Rostaing 'Saint-Tropez Blues' by André Hodeir and Henri Crolla Is the last one that funny b/w documentary about the côte before the whole boom started there? I once caught the second half of such a film on tv, by chance... very 50s, pretty funny, with voiceover commentary and b/w images of the region and people, including some staged scenes.

yo clem, I'll definitely pick up any Russell on Soulnote if I ever see any... just never saw any of it around and never really bothered enough to really hunt them... I would definitely be interested in the one that has Garbarek, seems he's great on it (if the Penguin chaps are reliable on this).

Just finished disc one of the 3CD set of Transriptions by the Nat King Cole Trio (Capitol/Blue Note)

did you get my pm?

added the Dexter to the "Savoy Jazz Originals", forgot it, even though I have it (it's great, but the non-Bud and non-Fats dates lack some alternates).

Maybe - but when Clark or Nichols died they had reached their peak, whereas Randy's top recordings were made after his Riversides. Only with the Roulette/UA sessions in the Mosaic Select he was at his best, and from then ever after. Melba Liston may be the critical ingredient here - her arrangements enhanced Weston's tunes in the best way possible. I cant think of him without thinking of her great arrangements. True! It was a stupid thought anyway... but I'm not sure Clark had reached his peak... anyway, stupid and off topic! The Marrakech solo outing is indeed a very fine one! I couldn't name a favourite of the solos spontaneously (I't tend to name "African Nite" on Owl at this moment). How is the Enja? I never got hold of it! And what do you think of the strings project (one of the last ones by Liston, I think)? I like it alright but it's not one I return to all that often, I'm afraid.

I have only got the Fargo set, nothing else that's in this box... looks great to me! (But it's likely going to be pretty expensive?)

There's still one more Decca not yet on CD, right? I have the Five Spot Verve Elite, the Impulse digipack of New York NY and the ChessMates of the big band one with the spacey title. Favourites are the OJC with Dolphy, the spacey big band one, and the first one, "Jazz Workshop". The Beethoven Hall (it was on CD by Motor Music in the 90s) is alright, too, and somehow I have never really felt like going any further - what I read about later Russell didn't sound that great, and the one I have from later years, "The African Game" (Blue Note) isn't nearly as exciting as any of the early material! And yes indeed, shrdlu, welcome back! We've shortly crossed paths in one of the South African thread a couple of days ago, good to see you back here!

That's the one. The original 10" had a different cover, which I can't seem to find right now... Thanks, Jim! The Columbia never really grabbed me, either... and I prefer the Merrill/Brownie session over the Vaughan one, too (but I'm biased, since Merrill is one of my absolute favourite singers!) As for the Mosaic, I will most likely get it when it goes running low... I have the old twofer with the Benny Carter sessions, haven't played it for quite some time, but it's probably my favourite of these few things I've heard of Sarah Vaughan. There seems to be plenty of good material among her Roulettes to make me want to get the Mosaic, eventually. I'll also look out for some of the Emarcy things mentioned in this thread, though!

That's the Columbia one with Miles, right? Or is there another one?

ooops, I'm getting paranoid I assume... must be the stuff I take against the pain...

What's happening here? sidewinder's "looks familiar" post is now between my and zen's post, but it had been posted further up several hours ago (before my "so the mystery's solved" post, which was my reaction to "looks familiar"). I saw this happening in another thread, yesterday - suddenly an older post gets moved to a newer position! wtf?

Very nice one! It's Wilder sitting in with the Hank Jones Trio (they're on several other Savoy releases, some in their own name).

I got "African Cookbook" (Koch reissue) long after getting "Monterey '66" and to me it never came close to the live album with the extended tunes. It's a fine one, nevertheless. Haven't listened to the Krog/Shepp in a long time. I'll have to put it on the turntable soon. The only Weston sideman recording I have in my collection is on The Warm Sound of Johnny Coles. edit - My mistake - I had it in my head that Randy Weston played on that date, but I just checked and it's Kenny Drew on piano. They do a version of Hi-Fly, and perhaps that's where the thought came from. My Koch reissue says on #2 and #7 ("Where" and "Babe's Blues") Randy's on piano, not on "Hi-Fly" and "Pretty Strange", the other two of his compositions played on this marvellous album. I have never heard the Krog/Shepp, alas.

So the mystery's solved, sidewinder? Only I still believe these were out in the late 90s only, not in the mid 90s. And they didn't ever get obsolete, as the Denon/Savoys were gone at least in part by the time these Atlantic/Savoys arrived. I never saw the Barron, by the way - is that the only one I missed, or have there been more of these?

I just gave a first listen to his most recent effort "Zep Tepi" - it's magnificient! Alex Blake shines on bass, beautifully sounding recording, too! You have all save one his LPs, Lon? Great! So you have both of the Cora LPs, too? I recently found Cora 01 and Pausa (I started a thread about these findings here). Also the solo Freedom (a great one!) and the CTI only have on vinyl.

Ah, is it those you meant, sidewinder? I had one of the Coltrane/Harden ones, "The Countdown Session" I think, it used the 70s double-lp layout, white/creamish frame (there were ones with black frame, too) with smaller image in the center, and I remember seing one of the other Harden/Coltrane items using yet another design I think (similar design I think as I have on a single LP of the Booker Ervin album which has added two bonus tracks of the same band accompanying a singer, the Bird 5LP box was similarly designed as well). But these CDs were late 80s, rather than mid 90s, I think. I bought that Coltrane in the mid 90s, but it looked old and had some patina back then. Gave it away after I got the Savoy/Atlantic 2CD package collecting all three sessions. Anyone has a listing of the Savoy/Atlantic digipack releases? Here are some I am aware of (it seems the series was called "Savoy Jazz Originals" and came out in the US in the late nineties into 2000 or even 2001, I don't have my discs here to check, only the Fats, which is from 2000): - Adderley Brothers - Summer of '55 (2CD) - Yusef Lateef - The Last Savoy Sessions (2CD) - Fats Navarro - Goin' to Minton's - Kenny Dorham - [untitled] - Erroll Garner - Complete Master Takes (2CD) - Art Pepper - The Discovery Sessions - Lee Morgan - The Birth of Hardbop (2CD) - Dexter Gordon - Settin' the Pace some covers: edited to add the Harden/Coltrane cover I forgot... edited to add Dexter Gordon "Settin' the Pace" both to the list and to the covers

I could find no general thread dedicated to Randy Weston, so I figured why not start a new one... Randy Weston Homepage "Zep Tepi" thread Randy Weston Select thread (1) Randy Weston Select thread (2) Randy Weston Select thread (3) Live in St. Lucia DVD thread I have managed to get hold of most of Randy's 80s/90s albums on French Universal and they're a marvellous run, favourites being "Volcano Blues" (the one with Teddy Edwards) and "Saga" (which has recently been reissued in French Universal's Heritage or Anniversary series of beautifully packaged digipacks). His encounter with moroccan Gnaoua musicians are great as well, though that one CD dedicated to Gnaoua music in its entirety actually only features Randy on the shortest track at the end. Also just a few months ago I finally got all four or his Fantasy CDs: These, paired with his Dawn release make up for a great body of work. After having played all of them a somewhat pervert thought arose: what if Weston had died in early 1957 and left us with just these five (six, actually, "Duo & Trio" packs two albums) albums? Would he be of similar mythic stature as, say Herbie Nichols, or Sonny Clark? His Mosaic Select, then, is even better - some terrific music to be found on it, likely his first really original music. The session with Hawk is terrific, KD, Copeland, Sulieman, Haynes and others can do no wrong, and the two "concept" albums on the third disc are very, very good, too, in my opinion. Other personal favourites include "Monterey '66" (with Booker Ervin sitting in), "Carnival" (live in Montreux, with Billy Harper) and the big band effort "Tanjah". In fact, I have yet to hear a mediocre Weston album... (but I think about ten of the albums on his website's discography I don't have, so...) Anyway, why I wanted to post in a Randy Weston thread today is because since a couple of weeks I have seen a new reissue of his three 1989 albums (Portraits of Duke, Portraits of Monk, Self Portraits) that is available here for budget prize in that nice digipack layout from French Universal (same packaging as these Heritage/Anniversary series reissues or the recent Mingus "Great Concert" 2CD set... I got the "Complete America" Mingus from German Amazon and it was packed in a slim digipack... quite a letdown, but it's about the music of course... now back on topic). It seems this is a limited edition (at least it says so on the cover). The new cover is a variant of the "Self Portraits" cover, I am allowed only 10 images in this post, so I omit the new one as the only one I could find (here, courtesy of French Amazon) is in bad quality anyway. Here are the original covers (reproduced in the new package, too): These were recorded in three consecutive days and marked the beginning of his tenure with producer Jean-Philippe Allard, who produced all (?) of Randy's great Universal albums in the years to follow, up to "Spirit! The Power of Music" in 1999. A great run of albums in ten years! The 1989 session features an editions of the African Rhythms band (Jamil Nasser on bass and Neil Clarke on percussion) with Idris Muhammad sitting in. You can check for complete info, including liner notes (all reproduced in the new reissue) on the Weston homepage.

So most would agree the Mosaic is not prime material? I only have very few of her recordings so far: a one disc on Columbia with the Miles sides, not sure that's the one that gets recommended in the first posts, and the Brownie session, also "Crazy & Mixed Up", that's it. Took a note with some recommendations, thanks everybod!

Definitely something else, then... never heard of these or saw one!

The cardboard "Savoy Originals" (doubles of Cannonball/Nat, Coltrane/Harden, singles of Navarro, Pepper, Dorham a.o.)? Those were late 90s, I think. The Lateef I have has the very same design but is packed in a slim a jewel case. Or are you talking of something else again?

I missed their Zurich concert, but from the review I heard it was *very* weak. And Robinson was terribly out of tune all evening long... the disc seems to be rather tame, I read.