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Thanks a lot for your fun compilations, Hans, and thanks for sending me that reminder! I've had your BFT on the ipod for a couple of days and gave one background listen to all of it yesterday, and now did a second round while at work, typing up some impressions and comments. So far I've got #1-11 of disc one, I will not read the threads before having posted comments on all tracks of the discs! #1 Is this one serious or not? Very groovy! Could be some of these Dutch maniacs in retro mode? The drummer builds a great swing, I love this kind of brushes playing! Bennink? First alto is a bit lazy in execution and the sound fits perfectly with that... second alto is nice, too, and the piano backing is quite nice as well - a great start for this disc! #2 Nice one, no clue who it is... #3 This one does sound familiar, but I can't pin it down. Ye olde hardbop, but pretty nice, especially the drummer! Playing it again... who the hell could this be? Is it less old than it sounds first? Tenor solo is pretty nice, is this from a Donald Byrd date? The Mobester? It's been quite some time since I played any Byrd... but who'd be on alto? The entry sounds like it could be Jackie Mac, but later the sound and execution gets a bit tamer... Hmm, I suppose I'm making a fool of myself with these comments... #4 I know this tune, but once again I can't pin it down... nice combination, trumpet/guitar/bass/drums. I enjoy both the guitarist's old-fashioned sound (with that slight twang! pretty nice!) and the sound of the trumpet player. I don't know of many trumpet players who worked with this format, Tom Harrell comes to mind, but then I'm not familiar enough with his playing to tell if this is him... but could be. #5 Nice ballad. The alto sound is rather pretty, but for my taste a bit inconsistent (changing between pretty full - which I like - and rather etheric and thin - which I don't enjoy... main reason why in 9 of 10 cases I prefer tenor...) Piano solo is nice, a bit flowery in between... all rather old-fashioned, bass and drums mostly staying out of the way, although the drummer does a few fills here and there, and nicely so. #6 More alto, a bit beafier, I prefer this one. Jackie Mac influence? I enjoy the alto solo a lot! Good backing by the drummer! Piano is good, too, out of a Tyner bag, a bit? #7 Ouch, this almost hurts! Quite a change of style! Not bad in itself, but it doesn't fit here, in my opinion. #8 This one's nice! The stop-and-go feeling is nice, could be one I ought to be able to identify... Herbie Nichols? Longtime I played his BN material, but the box has recently been added to the listening pile. #9 Rhythm-A-Ning by Monk, not easy for any pianist to cover Monk, and likely bound to fail, I think... not bad, but nowhere near Monk, sorry. #10 One of those Bird tunes... "Blues for Alice"? One of the moaners on piano, but a nice solo, sounds at some moments like late Bud Powell. Alto makes a nice, understated entry, pretty cool sound for a hot player... nice one, but I'm clueless once more! #11 Another abrupt stylistic change, but this is a fun track, right from the bass-lick and congas to the stacked horns. Trumpet has nice bits! Electric piano fits in well here, too. A pretty enjoyable track!

adult contemporary? (aka the US version of ECM euro smooth...)

Oh yes, "On a Clear Day" is great!

You first have to put together a valentine compilation of "Sun Ra for Lovers" - no full-size images before that! (use the img-logo on top, the one with the tree, and insert the images url there - it's merely linked into your post that way and not attached. downside is if the link is gone, so is the image, but it saves lots of space for the board, too, I assume)

Garbarek had bad electronics before, nothing new under the sun.... but you'd be quite alone among serious jazz fans if you still considered him someone to watch... true, he was quite ok on the Katché Neighbourhood album, and probably also on the Vitous one, but that's about it, as far as Garbarek goes, in the last 15 or so years...

I picked up several CDs of hers in recent years and they've all been good: Trio Classics, Vol. 1 (a twofer of "Great Scott" and "Shirley's Sounds"), Like Cozy (a twofer of the album of the same title and "The Shirley Scott Trio", both on Moodsville), also her "Legends of Acid Jazz" with Turrentine is very fine. Then there's the Impulse "QUeen of the Organ" and the Blue Notes with Stanley T. ("Hustlin'"!)... she's easily one of my favourite organists!

If you're still looking, drop me an email about it!

I once asked for the T-Bone with no luck, but I searched around and found a lot of the info. I'll post it later, don't have it with me.

Sad news "The In-Crowd" still is in my father's LP collection, pretty beat-up... and just recently I picked up a copy of this fun Water twofer: BORN AGAIN (1970) / MELLOW DREAMIN' (1971) Eldee Young (bass); Redd Holt (drums) Additional personnel include: Kenneth Chaney, Bobby Lyle (keyboards); Donny Hathaway (background vocals). Liner Note Authors: Redd Holt; Pat Thomas Recording information: P.S. Studios, Chicago, Illinois (1970 - 1971) For the first time on CD are two classic soul-jazz albums from Young-Holt Unlimited originally released in '70 and '71 on Cotillion/Atlantic (blurb excerpted from the CDU page, via big-o)

and why start this in the discography forum anyway? want to pull together a list of ECM smoothies here?

On second thought, if what ECM releases is smooth jazz, the same applies to (not 100%, either, mind me!) the output of labels like Palmetto, Criss Cross et. al. It's just a bit of a bluesier and boppier kind of smooth, but it's all old mainstream crap, too.... and of course nothing beats king of smooth remasters, RVG's editions, although it would be smoothier if it wasn't for his use of edgy compression...

Another of these great threads! I love'em!

Just ordered the Goldkette from worldsrecords (along with the Arbors of Wild Bill Davison's two strings albums and the Tommy Turrentine Time they have on "sale" for 9 bucks) Seems the Goldkette just duplicates one cut from the Bix/Tram Mosaic, which I have on my wantlist...

Definitely worth checking out, yes! He also appears on a trio date by Grant Green that's pretty good, and his two Argo releases have recently been released on yet another spanish or andorran outfit (check dustygroove.com, they list it) and are worth checking out, too! (That label that did the Argos has quite an ok look, btw, much better than Definitive or Lonehill or any of those, although they're slowly improving, too.)

someone sent me this link yesterday, I hope it's new to some of you, too: http://www.reubenradding.com/12.html Both instalments so far feature Jack Wright! Of Radding himself, I haven't heard before...

Yeah, maybe that's a wise decision, but that particular trio is the best Ahmad ever recorded, I think. Nothing he did after that matches up, good as some of it is.

Ahem, that's what I sit in, not what I'd recommend to others

deep shit

MG, you ought to treat yourself to the "Cross Country Tour" 2CD set, just to get some of the best of Jamal's trio w/Crosby & Fournier! "Ahmad's Blues" isn't far behind, and then there's "At the Pershing / But Not for Me", which seems to be the most cherished single album, but I don't have it (most of it is in the "Cross Country" set, I think).

Yes, but no sectarian he... have you ever heard his recording of "On the Sunni Side of the Street"?

It's sad that either one of these deaths is "news". Guy Let's be careful here, Guy. They are both indeed news. What I think you mean to say, and forgive me if I'm putting words in your mouth that you don't agree with, is that they should be news of much more limited interest in the grand scheme of things when you consider all of the other shit that is going on in the world. Yeah, maybe, but with all the other shit not even barely making the news, I feel the same way as Guy does (or have you seen ample media coverage of Bangladesh on the verge of civil war? Or of their annual floods with 100'000s of dead - we just tire of that, and to some extent it's even understandable, but ethically considered, it's still plain wrong).

I think the Camden discs, at least in case of the Ibrahims, are straight reissues of the older KAZ releases, I also dimly recall the Penguin guide saying so. I have a "review copy" of the African Jazz Pioneers, forgot about that - but I don't like it nearly as much as any of the others! And I have never even heard of that book, I'm afraid, but I'll take a note, thanks for mentioning it!

Oh, sorry... good then! I should have looked up "tepid" and I would have gotten you right! For me then a reason to get it!

How's the sound on this compared to the single Cds that saw the light of day in the late 80s. I've the Storyville (muddy) and Roost Quartet sessions (ok sound) already. Is the box worth upgrading to. I can't tell, never had it in another way before... and the music is so sublime ("Imagination" on disc one, for instance - whoah!) I never bothered about sound. Maybe someone else can offer some comparison?

here's the Kippie thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=3416