Larry Kart

Remember it well. I'm in the car on the right. And he backed into you? Now I get it. No I smashed into him. Speaking of Asherie and Allen, while I like Asherie, Allen's solo with Ehud here exemplifies the creepy predictability of Allen's thinking IMO: that's a fair observation, but harry has mastered his craft more than well. If it's fair to say that Allen's thinking here is creepily predictable, in what sense has he "mastered his craft more than well"? Again, I think of what used to be called "hotel tenor." The craft that such players ply is indeed a craft, but it's not the same craft, I think, that just about any jazz musician I can think of aspires to master. Seems to me that you're setting the bar very low -- not much above the level of "he can play the instrument." That I'll grant, but is this what we've come to settle for?

Allen and Alexander -- strychnine and arsenic. I can't decide which to drink.

Remember it well. I'm in the car on the right. And he backed into you? Now I get it. No I smashed into him. Speaking of Asherie and Allen, while I like Asherie, Allen's solo with Ehud here exemplifies the creepy predictability of Allen's thinking IMO:

Remember it well. I'm in the car on the right.

Even (or perhaps especially) this from a Grant Stewart album that's dedicated to Rollins speaks of the IMO significant differences I mentioned above:

An IMO revealing (and I think not unfair) comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRWw_GouRmU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RiPImaH9ug&feature=related

What I've heard of Allen's playing almost makes me physically ill. At least initially, he was a straight cop of "Long Island Sound" Getz, with a fair bit of what used to be called "hotel tenor" thrown in, the Getz model being denatured a good deal and significantly "lickified" (my coinage). It's not that Allen is not original that mostly bothers me; it's that even granting him his models, he is, by comparison, so bland and miniaturized. I probably can't, and have no great desire to, convince otherwise anyone who likes Allen. All I would hope that those who have an understandable fondness for older styles on particular instruments be aware of (what I see as) the difference between players on those instruments who are significantly inspired by those styles and proceed to invent in a personal manner (Grant Stewart for example, IMO) and those who do what IMO Allen does. To borrow the title of movie I saw a few days ago, his solos are like "tiny furniture." Hearing Allen live once with Randy Sandke, I could pretty much tell how each phrase would go before he played it. This is a good thing?

I'm planning to do that myself.

Time seems to have been very kind to her.

I like this one a lot: http://www.omnitone.com/physique/index.htm

FWIW, because these moderator-behavior matters keep cropping up, I sent this as a PM to someone a few weeks ago: I now realize that the overriding/general moderator principle is not so much to take note of past injuries and/or to punish the guilty/administer justice (if indeed the latter were even possible) but to do one's best to keep things functioning as smoothly as possible here.

Garbage site? Twat mods? Things must be poppin' at Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Yes -- one Quaalude margarita, coming up.

FWIW, the somehow missing or perhaps never sent PM to Blue Train that he mentions above read IIRC as follows: "What difference does it make how rapidly I responded to your post, and that I myself posted below it in the thread? I don't always read or absorb every phrase of every post in a thread, and in this case I was alerted to what you said by a complaint from another board member. I'm sorry about what happened to your brother." There I meant to say "your cousin," and that's why my next PM began as it did.

I don't agree that the fact of Goodspeak's occupation qualifies that as a "personal attack." If questioning others' choices is verboten, that closes down lots of opportunities for engagement/discussion. Assuming, as I do, that the passage in parentheses alludes to Paterno but essentially refers to Goodspeak -- because he is the one who teaches children (Paterno taught young men) -- it strikes me as a personal attack because of the phrase "somehow allowed," which implies that if Goodspeak holds the views that he does in this case (views with which I happen to disagree), then he ought not be allowed to teach children. To me that crosses over the line.

OK -- At Blue Train's request and for anyone who's interested, here is "the unnecessarily hostile, threatening and rude" PM (it was headed "Stop it") that I sent to Blue Train, "who was never even previously warned that he did anything wrong": 'Your personal attack on Goodspeak below (the part in parentheses) was way out of line: "Would anyone want their kid/grandchild, or even their worst enemies kid/grandchild having to depend on anyone (especially anyone who is somehow allowed to teach children and thus legally required to do so.) who thinks 48 hours to a week after being informed of a kid being fondled/sodomized, or anything sexual happened between a minor and adult?" Don't do anything like that again. It's a violation of forum rules.' Some admittedly testy back and forth between us followed, which I'd also be happy to print verbatim--- again, should anyone care. P.S. The reason I judged the part in parentheses to be a personal attack is that Goodspeak had mentioned several times on the thread that he himself was a schoolteacher who had reported several cases of sexual abuse during the course of his career.

My reference to Sanchez was mostly just an aside because she was in one of the two Malaby-led groups that Steve Reynolds heard that night. Other than that, though, based on the one Sanchez album I know, she seems to me (differences in instruments granted) a significantly "freer" player in the good sense than her former husband. As far as that goes, then, I guess I was just trying to nail my flag to the mast by indicating that if anything my mixed feelings about Malaby's own music were coming from (so to speak) the left rather than the right. I know -- who cares? But OTOH why not say so, especially when I imagine that some who don't care that much for Malaby might have as a key reference point, say, Eric Alexander?

I have deleted Captain Hate's recent posts on this thread.

Good news

exonerate 1: to relieve of a responsibility, obligation I think you need to chose a word other than "exonerate," one that means something like (should there be such a word) "I think he did a lot of good overall, in my view, but he probably didn't do all that he could have done in this grave situation." Pending further investigation, the dimensions of "probably didn't do all that he could have done" remain to be seen, but I don't see how Paterno can be relieved of responsibility or obligation here, which is what exonerate means.

But not the only one, given the eventual likely prosecution and possible conviction of high-level Penn State administrators involved in the coverup of Sandusky's deeds, that coverup (if real and proved in court) of course being a criminal act. And again, while Joe Pa almost certainly didn't mastermind that coverup, the protection and defense of his longstanding hegemony at Penn State was far from incidental to it. Yes -- these things are not yet proved in courts of law, and yes, there is a hue and cry afoot here, but it's hard to see that some hue and cry is not called for.

Rigby with two big NYC-area big bands (I prefer him in his own small groups, though):

Based on a fair amount of admittedly non-comprehensive experience with Malaby's music, I much prefer the playing of Sanchez, his former (IIRC) wife. (Her trio album from a while back with drummer Chad Taylor is something else.) Have trouble with Malaby's IMO too-readily "keening" tone. By and large, I like/trust timbral-emotional colorations only when they seem to arise from the music, not when they're applied like mustard or ketchup. A somewhat comparable saxophonist from the same general scene who I find a good deal more interesting than Malaby is Jason Rigby.

Oldish reissue of Moravec's 1960s Connoisseur Society Chopin recordings.

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