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My guesses, by the looks of things so far, were - ahem - a bit far off the mark. I'm still puzzling over who the guitarist may be on track #1. I listened to this a couple more times and am liking it more and more. It's not Django but it should be To not go overboard with posts from me...killing two with one. Glad you liked the disc Evan! Bill, you are right, it should be Django!

1. Someone grabbed onto the sound of the Goodman Sextet with Charlie Christian and Hamp and made an earnest attempt to keep it going. Nice twists in the chord changes. The guitarist sounds more interested in Django than Christian. I’m going to guess it’s European. And maybe an electrified violin? Not European. You are right, the guy does sound more interested in Django! And right again about electric Violin. 2. Wrote just two words on my notepad while listening to this: “Rex – Menelik”. Very nice-sounding transfer. Yep! 3. Beginning sounds kinda like Raymond Scott. Then again, the blowing suggests it isn’t. Especially enjoyed the alto solo. Novel use of the bass clarinet. No further idea what it is, but I like. Is that bass clarinet??? Not questioning you, just haven't heard much. I do have a track on disc two where I know bass clarinet was used, but it's played so much softer, hard to compare. 4. A decent boogie-woogie circa 1941. Trumpeter reads from the Cootie Williams book but doesn’t have anything new to say about it. Maybe Harry James? Maybe! 5. I love this chromatically restless swing-to-bop stuff. Interesting piano. A truly great trombone solo; Bill Harris? Followed by Charlie Ventura? Circa 1945. As a mainly Swing and pre swing guy, I still like the as you put it, "chromatically restless" swing to bop stuff as well. Right on both players! Close, 2 years later for these recordings. 6. Then we jump back to about 1933. Lovely. Teagarden? Nice guitar work throughout. Hard to tell on the computer speakers -- is that tuba or bowed bass? The violin spot is a letdown. Still a darned good record overall. A bit earlier, 1929. Not Teagarden. The guy played both Tuba and Bass, but this appears to be bass(On my old computer speakers! ) This is off an old cd, pre CEDAR. Wish I could have found the slightly better quality version, but I was pressed for time. 7. Doesn’t do much for me, but then Tea for Two hardly ever does unless it’s Tatum. Frou-frou piano. But the tenor puts some muscle into it. A not-so-simple arrangement, well played. Do I detect the Lunceford band here? Well, reactions all over the place on this one, which is cool. Not Lunceford. 8. But this does quite a bit for me. A great big band from circa 1931, maybe Mills Blue Rhythm Band or Don Redman? Maybe the Calloway band with the leader out of earshot? Luis Russell? The bass and drums are captured beautifully by some forgotten recording engineer who knew what he was doing. The whole thing swings like a mofo at a time when swing was really new. Strong solos all around – the altoist is a star. Consider my world rocked by this one. Is the tune “Milenburg Joys”? It's Luis Russell's band, good guess! It's a shame in a way his band just became the back-up band for Louis...though I am sure he made a good living. I first heard this on a very crappy (sound wise) box set...JSP did a wonderful job of getting the audio out of the track that was put in it originally! 9. I recognize “Shanghai Shuffle” from a ‘20s Fletcher Henderson record. But this is later. The arrangement seems to match the version Fletcher recorded in 1934 for Decca. But this is 45 seconds longer. A Fletcher broadcast? Yep, Shanghai Shuffle, but not Fletcher. Might be his arrangement though. Not a broadcast, but from a transcription, hence the added length. 10. The frantic place continues. Sounds like we’ve stepped back to about 1936. The ensemble brilliance suggests Lunceford again. If I keep saying that I’ll be right one of these times, won’t I? It's earlier, 1930 in fact! You can keep guessing Lunceford, but you are going to keep being wrong! Some people griped about the well oiled machine sound of this group, but I must like it, since I have 11 cds from them! (In fact, I think Stereojack guessed it, but if I keep going back and forth to what has, and hasn't been answered, I'll never get done! Other people may be smart enough to do it, by I ain't other people! ) 11. Oh, shoot, I’ve heard this. Same changes as Basie’s “Easy Does It”; which came first? Maybe this is Erskine Hawkins, with nice muted Dud Bascomb for contrast? Good guesses, but no. Does my heart good that no one has guessed this one. 12. I thought Andy Kirk for the first minute, but then the pianist relinquishes control and the boogie-woogie turns kinda clunky. That long clarinet bridge is a trip. The track doesn’t quite click, but it’s another interesting example of swing outgrowing the old clothes. Not Kirk, as it sounds like you already surmised. 13. Sounds like the real Tatum, for a sec, then sounds like a wannabe. The guitar solo has an uneasy combination of Hawaiian and Django elements. Afterward, the pianist sounds more Teddy Wilson-esque. A hybrid all around. Please tell me it isn’t the King Cole Trio. It's Nat King Cole! Kidding! You are not the first to complain about the guitarist. 14. Circa 1930. Decent solos all around, but the trombonist steals the show, and nobody tries particularly hard to steal it back. I know Stereojack got this one. You are off just one year, so not bad at all! 15. Roy! Title cut here. The alto ain’t bad either. Love the slightly awkward tenor spot – it could pass for a Ben Webster spot on one of those 1932 Moten records. Right! As you probably have already read above, the Alto is Roy's bro. Not Webster, if you had any doubts. 16. Fascinating variegated performance. An arranger’s tour de force. And then the trumpet coda! Don’t know what it is, but I like. A rare track...when chosing tracks for this, I thought, ohh, this is interesting, let me add it...then, next time I played it, I wondered if I should have put something else on instead. Glad folks have liked it! You are right about being an arranger's tour de force 17. Cootie plays Topsy? Naw, it can’t be him. Clarinet must be Artie Shaw, because it’s too suave for BG. Then a new theme! This is off the hook. Really beautiful. Are you sure that it can't be Cootie??? BG somewheres, giving you the rasberry right now! 18. Back a few years, circa ‘31. Riffs are borrowed from “Chant of the Weed,” as is some of the attitude in the alto solo. Mills or Calloway? Sounds older than 1936, doesn't it??? And Chant of the Weedish, to be sure. Not Mills or Calloway, but some guys I think did at least play for Mills.... 19. Spirits of Rhythm? The pseudo-Hawaiian lyrics are a hoot, and the Hawaiian guitar is downright pretty. Amazing control in the trumpet throughout (Zat chew, Charlie Shavers?). Not Spirits of Rhythm, but a good guess, nonetheless. Zat ain't Shavers! 20. The Latin tinge, but in this performance it’s more like a Latin stain that the band wants removed from its uniforms. They don’t sound too interested. The only track so far that doesn’t make me happy. Well, the one track I guess I should have left off. Amazing how everyone else is wrong, and I am right about it! Spontooneous, some very educated guesses!!!!

Agreed. From another LFBE! (Waldenbooks, Borders a for just a few months, Books a Million for me, what for you?) The only thing that makes sense(and not much) is focusing on the web. But, I think they are shooting themselves in the foot, and several other places. Much moreso than with music purchases,(except for listening to sample, they are not easy to access at a store) people do want and do need to see and read a bit of book before they buy. If a book isn't reviewed, or isn't by someone's favorite author...how will they ever stumble upon it??? And the article said...they "won't pay for more desirable display space in the front of bookstores" Well, no push means the books will likely be spined out, never seen...and the bookstores can't get rid of them...a perfect plan.

Oh clearly, good riddance....he supported the 2nd amendment, and was an early supporter of civil rights...clearly a purely evil man.

Funny, you said kinder things when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. But I forget, he was such a warmonger....

Holy Smokes!!! A ringer! What, you use some fancy schmancy technology to see the answers on my computer???? You did better than I would if I had to name everyone I put on this disc. 1. A nice slice of swing to kick off this fine BFT. My first thought for the vibist was Adrian Rollini, although Rollini usually worked in a trio format. The violin has a bit of a “gypsy” quality, so I thought of Eddie South. No idea on the others. Not Eddie South, but does sound like him. 2. Rex Stewart! Knew it from the first note. I can also hear Harry Carney & Lawrence Brown in there, so this has to be one of the many Ellington spin-off groups. A lovely side. Right on the money!! Just blew my mind when I first heard it.... 3. I was enjoying the fine ensemble work with no idea who this was until the alto came in – Jimmy Dorsey! Presumably that’s him on clarinet at the beginning. Although Dorsey’s band was known for the many vocal hits they made, they could kick ass with the best of them, as this fine side demonstrates. Ahh, a wise man you are, to know Jimmy Dorsey's alto! I don't think anyone else soloed on Clarinet in his band(Though you never know) It's a crying shame more of this band's work isn't out on CD, and many of the cds are, are heavy on the vocals....And they could kick ass with the best of them! 4. A strong Basie feeling here – I think this might be an early Harry James track. James always took cues from Basie throughout his career, and the trumpet could be him. Yep, that's James! I fear so many have heard his sickly sweet sound, they will never delve into his pre and post war bands. 5. I recognized Bill Harris right away. At first I figured this was a Woody Herman contingent with Flip Phillips, but once the track got beyond 78 length, I figured it out. This is a live track from an old Phoenix(?) LP “A Knight In the Village”, with Charlie Ventura on tenor and Lennie Tristano on piano. Well, you are 2/3rds right. It's Harris, and Ventura, but not Tristano! Man, I'd like to hear those live tracks! 6. The tune is “Anything”. I believe this is the Original Memphis Five, with Tommy Dorsey, Phil Napoleon, Eddie Lang, and Jimmy Dorsey doing his very best Jimmie Noone. Tommy later recorded this with Sinatra in the early 40’s. Wow. Yep! Never heard the later version! You didn't guess the Pianist, or Drummer though! 7. A fine pianist with a debt to Fats Waller. Might this be Bob Zurke? That’s wild guess, but I’ll stick with it for now. Holy Crap!!! This requires an emoticon we don't have!!! If there was one track I figured was safe it was this one!(Well, or track 19) Pat yourself on the back, and give yourself 2 gold stars! 8. Here’s a swing version of the New Orleans warhorse “Panama”. I think this might be the Luis Russell band around 1934, after some of the key players had left. Sounds like J. C. Higginbotham and Charlie Holmes were still on board! Right again! Well, right about most things...Higginbotham, and Holmes are still on board, since its from 1930! 9. Here’s a swing version of a tune Fletcher Henderson first recorded with Louis Armstrong in the band in the mid 1920’s – “Shanghai Shuffle”. Not sure if this is Henderson c. 1934, but if it is, that’d be Ben Webster on tenor, still under the spell of Hawkins. My memory tell me that Buster Bailey was in the band at the time, but this doesn’t sound like him. Red Allen on trumpet. Can’t get enough of this! Ha! You missed one! Wrong on all counts! Well, it is a Fletcher Henderson tune.... 10. This has to be the Casa Loma Orchestra! The tune reminds me of “Heebie Jeebies”. Billy Rauch trombone, Pat Davis tenor. Clarence Hutchenrider clarinet. Fantastic ensemble work, even if the arrangement is a little ornate. This band must have been great live. Man, you're killing me! You not only know the band, but knowing Pat Davis on Tenor??? If you ever have a sex change operation, and its a good one, let me know! Thisappears to be a year before Clarence Hutchenrider joined the band...but, now looking at my notes, I don't have a clarinet player listed! Will check some more! 11. I can’t place this – there’s a bit of a Sy Oliver feel here, although I don’t think this is the Lunceford band. I could be wrong. The open trumpet is strong. Might this be Erskine Hawkins? Not Sy or Lunceford. Oh man, I want to spill the beans, but...I shall wait.... 12. My first thought was Raymond Scott, but I think this might be a little too jazzy for him. Good trumpet player! Good solos all around Well, it's a Raymond Scott song, if nothing else. I dearly love the drumming on this tune....again, it's a name band folks will know 13. There are a few names that come to mind for this trio rendition of Schubert’s “Serenade”. The guitar is a little ripe, sounds like he might be more comfortable playing Hawaiian music! Jazzing up the classics was all the rage in the late 30’s & early 40’s, so this could be any number of pianists. Herman Chittison, maybe, or possibly Erskine Butterfield? Right on the first name!!! 14. One of my all time favorites – “Swing Out”, by Henry “Red” Allen. I first heard this many years ago when I was in high school - this track was on one of those “RCA History of Jazz” LP’s, and all these years later it’s still one of my desert island tracks. Of course, this is actually the great Luis Russell band recording under Allen’s name for Victor in 1929. I’ve always loved the way J. C. Higginbotham comes swooping in on trombone, and all of the soloists (and the stomping rhythm section) are great – Teddy Hill, Charlie Holmes, Albert Nicholas, and Red Allen. Five stars – no, ten stars! Right of course! I think I first heard this on an anthology cd, but can't remember which one. Well, have it on a cd of his now. Agree with everything else you said as well...a song that grabs you from the first second. And to think, it was recorded before the depression started!!!! 15. I think this is Roy Eldridge, circa 1937. His brother Joe Eldridge on alto – a fine player sounding a little like Russell Procope. Roy is one of my all time favorite musicians – tremendous drive and excitement!! Right on both of them! I sure wouldn't be able to pick out Joe on Alto!!!! I don't like that sometimes when Eldridge is mentioned, people focus on him challenging anyone and everyone to contests...almost like, aww, ain't that cute, the little guy(Then the little old guy) wants to show off! To paraphrase what Jimmy Stewart said about Katherine Hepburn's character in Philadelphia Story, he was lit from within! 16. At the beginning this borrows from Louis’s “Yes I’m In the Barrel”. I think it’s Benny Goodman circa 1933. Might this be “Tappin’ the Barrel”? The arrangement is the star here, although Benny and the trumpet (Charlie Teagarden?) have a couple of nice spots. Not Goodman, but he played with this group before. Nor is Teagarden here. 17. Here’s Benny again, a few years later, with the fabulous Eddie Sauter composition “Benny Rides Again”. Such gorgeous writing, great ensemble work, and BG at his finest. Is that Nick Fatool on drums? It don’t get no better than this. Right all every count except the Drummer(A guy who I don't know by name) 18. I think this might be Benny Carter circa 1933. Some imaginative changes, and lovely writing, especially for the saxes. I won’t hazard a guess as to the soloists, although they are all good. This one's a very tough one. A smaller name band, but with some pretty big names in the band....3 years later than your guess. 19. A Hawaiian vocal group with trumpet – very nice! I’m clueless on this, although I like it. Another reason why I am so glad I bought some compilation discs that are now long gone...You sure can't say it sounds like much of anything else out there! A great, underrated trumpet man who will likely never get his proper reevaluation, unless Jazz Oracle does a Purvis sized set on him ... 20. A noble attempt, but it seems a little busy and never settles into a groove. Nevertheless, an interesting finale to a very fine BFT. Well, I guess it's one no one is going to warm up to, but that's alright. Something about it just seems somewhat sad, and interesting to my ears. And unlike someone here, I liked the drummer! I'd love to have seen Artie Shaw mess around with the tune. A no name band with some names in it. Hey, thanks for listening! And pat yourself on the back. I was sorry Brownie had retired from the board, since I thought he was the most likely guy(or Lon) to do really well, but I doubt they could do any better! I thought there were only Bluenote 1955-65 folks here, but I guess there are a few weirdoes here who know the ancient stuff as well!

Had no idea he was still alive! Bruce, seeing your taste in films on the film thread , I think you'd like both Never on Sunday, and Topkapi. Since I am sleepy, let's just say they are both warm, interesting films. Topkapi has just spectacular color. Dassin is a very interesting actor in Never on Sunday.... Rest in Peace.

The thought of Colon being healthy and throwing mid-90s heat as the fifth starter makes me positively giddy. He really could be the steal of the year. Someone mentioned(Forget who somebody on TV I think) that some players like Colon have outs in their Minor league contracts if they are not called up by a certain date. Have you heard anything like that with him??? And yeah, thanks for the salt in the wound with Hampton! We(On a braves blog) were all trying to guess how long he would go...figuring adrenaline would be the biggest problem with him going deep(I think he went 6 innings in his 2nd to last start in ST) didn't think he wouldn't even make it out of the bullpen! Though looking back on it, "they" should have been smart, and waited a day...It was in the low 50's and rainy, not the best time to make a first start....We have both Chuck James and Jo-Jo Reyes coming up....Chucky is coming up to start(He had a slight tear in his rotator cuff last year we found out this year) and Jo-Jo, a starter,is to relieve, since Booby Cox has somehow managed to wear out the bullpen after 4 games....and the Braves go with 12 pitchers! Don't the majority of teams still go with 11??? Or is it just the way Cox has his roster??? We only have 4 outfielders, 6 infielders, and 3 catchers....Bobby Cox, supergenius!

Check out Eddie Peobody!!! Anybody ever hear of him before??? That Harp Guitar was what interested me in clicking on the link, everything is fine, not amazing, til that wild Banjo finish! head bangin' banjo solo!!!

The Central in the NL is going to be very tough as well....Seeing the Pirates play against the braves the last few days, they look to be a far improved team, at least a sound fundamental team...of the broadcasters(Joe Simpson) said he didn't think they would finish in last place this year. So...with the offense you are describing....with the Reds being improved....that means the Cards are the most likely team to end up in last place....but, Tony LaRussa seems to stay out of last place....should be very interesting! Oh, and now Jose Cruz Jr. has finally made it to the team his Father had so much success with??? Oh man, I feel old....Now the son is an old man near the end of his career.

Glad you liked them! I won't laugh at any dumb comments, well I won't type that I am laughing! So, anyone else gonna comment????

Well, at least you gave it a try, and were not made ill from listening to it! I'll have to remember use the first 2 lines of your post for future BFT's!

Sounds like these discs will be worn out by you!

I'll try to find some better photos, but here are a few from the Nethercutt Collection in Sylmar, California. My digital camera is older, and they don't allow flashes in this building, so had to cover the flash! So, used photoshop so you could at least see the images. If you live in that neck of the woods, you ought to check it out!(I have heard rumors that even though it's supposed to be funded forever, it may be shut down!) Mainly a classic car collection, they also have in the original building an amazing collection of restored mechanical musical instruments like the player whatyacallits shown above(Theres a name for them, but can't think of them-and not seeing it on the websites below)several of which are just huge room sized things and were shipped over from Europe. Can't find a all encompassing article on this part of the collection, but here is some info... http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EI...n_6/ai_n8684673 http://www.mechanicalmusicpress.com/histor...la/w32_1_p2.htm and a bit more on the whole collection http://www.eyespyla.com/www/thebuzz.nsf/59...33;OpenDocument

That's a great photo Jon!

Reminds me of a poll I thought about doing: Who will lose the most number of games this season? The Giants The Pirates The Orioles The Marlins My money is on the Giants, who are likely to be terrible for many years to come, regardless of how their young starters do. Sad, but true. I think the Giants should have traded Lincecum for Rios of the Blue Jays, or perhaps they should have traded him for Adam Jones if they could have gotten him....He's got great stuff, but I don't know if he can hold up. Cain has a Clemens type build and should be around for a long time. Yeah, you win with pitching...but, when you lose Bonds, and Pedro Feliz, and only add Aaron Rowand...you are going to have problems. Maybe the Angels will get desperate, and give several of their prospects for Lincecum....one day they will actually trade their surplus! I'll throw you a bone GS. Last year, the Nationals were thought to be a team that could lose 120 games, and ended up 73-89

Hoping and praying I have the correct track order! I think folks will be very surprised when they find out who this is! (Those that care, that is!) Sounds like good times! I know what you mean, I love the way it opens, wish they had stayed with it longer. Very different than anything else this group did. Oh, and you will know the trombonist, at least by name. Not Ellington. Nor the other two. Don't feel bad, no one else will either! Interesting you say that....could be they just weren't used to recording tracks this long, or the arranger wasn't yet good enough for this long a song... . Or a little like the music at the end of the Bogart Film, Dark Passage. Everyone hears something different....I predict no one will guess this one either(Heck, if someone dug out a cd with this on it, I'd only know one player's name from memory) Thanks for listening! I will be saying the same thing, about the next BFT!

Will correct numbers of tracks, and will just comment on one's you made a guess on, or really liked... Ahh, like I said before, even if someone only likes one track, I'm glad they liked one track! Thanks for making me feel I didn't waste everyone's time putting this long one on the BFT! As mentioned before, it's Bill Harris on Trombone. Oh, also a live recording, which explains the muddyness(I know it's a live track, but wonder if it just sounds like poorly dubbed vinyl to others who don't know this fact?) Interesting you say this! I've never heard another version of this song(That I can remember) Not Fatha Hey, it's really old! Hoover was President!

Funny, didn't recognize any name except Harley Race. That sounds mighty familiar. Watched a lot of wrestling on St. Louis TV (Channel 11?) as a kid. I remember matches having time limits. 2 Minutes left, only 2 minutes left!!! Ric Flair was around when I was 8-9 years old, and is just NOW retiring???? Looked him up, he's 59!!!! Read this on the Wiki bio... Flair’s career nearly ended when he was in a serious plane crash in Wilmington, North Carolina that took the life of the pilot and paralyzed Johnny Valentine (also on board were “Mr. Wrestling I” Tim Woods, Bob Bruggers, and promoter David Crockett).[7] Flair broke his back in three places; and at age 26, he was told by doctors that he would never wrestle again.[7] Flair conducted a rigorous physical therapy schedule, however, and he returned to the ring just six months later So, I'm 18 years younger than him, never once broke my back, yet my back hurts if I stand too long, sit too long, , or lay in bed too long??? Meanwhile, he's been lifting 300 pound men up and throwing them out of the ring for as long as I've been alive???? That's it, I am going to start taking steroids, HGH, and whatever the hell else he uses!

And yet you don't have the Phillies making it to the playoffs!!! Braves have flat out stunk the last two games(Didn't help playing a Sunday night game in DC, and coming back to ATL to play Monday, who thought up a one game road trip?) Guess it went to their heads that some folks were actually predicting them to win the division. Hudson and Glavine have been fine, but the 5 flamethrowers out of the pen all look like scared little boys! It should be very interesting to see which of the 3 teams comes out on top.... Oh, and I want to be on the record saying the Devil Rays will finish 3rd this year!!!

A DVD set of seasons 1 and 2 has been out there since 2005, I am seeing...Anyone ever see a site that ranks overall DVD sales, not just sales for this week???

nope, he might be on one of the 2 cds though.... speaking of jabbo, i think i know what track he plays on. i listened to the discs a bunch more this weekend. are you going to make a new thread for disc 2, or are we going to put it all here? i'm itching to have some guesses confirmed. ) They will go on another thread, it's getting pretty confusing here, as it is...Don't know when...I don't see a FAQ dealing with 2 disc sets, but there needs to be some time between the discussion of disc one, and the discussion of disc 2...most people (I assume) haven't had a chance to listen to disc one yet....If you are losing sleep over a track, I could always PM you an answer.

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nope, he might be on one of the 2 cds though....

Not Charlie, or Floyd. A guy who played with some big names.... There you go! ... No, but a darn good guess, he certainly should be better known!