Harold_Z

A deposit or bread up front is the standard protocol for guys that have revealed their business ethics to be shaky. Most of the time they'll run the other way when they hear words like deposit, but you really aren't losing anything.

I enjoyed last night but it bordered on sitcom. Some good lines tho. Chris' line about parade float and Junior's line about the sun visor.

Goldie doesn't bother me either. He had very impressive chops and could be somewhat florid. I think it is this aspect of his playing that turns off some listeners. That being said - he was never the jazz player that Bobby Hackett was, although his technique and range surpassed Bobby's. Goldie would have been capable of first chair in a section and that's something Bobby - or Wild Bill for that matter - couldn't do - and didn't aspire to.

I figured it was time to bring this one back up and see if anyone else was following the show. By the end of the second episode I was definitely enjoying this show. The plot is really starting to firm up and ...well...I'm hooked. I really am looking forward to the 3rd episode. As far as the language - I've read newspaper articles (and opinions in this thread) saying it's inauthentic and I've seen articles claiming the writers went to great effort to produce language and profanity congruent to the timeframe. One way or the other, it doesn't really bother me. With this show and previously with Band Of Brothers, I found I had to turn the volume up higher (or wear phones) than I really wanted to in order to catch all the dialogue. As with the Sopranos, I think the casting is right on. Robin Weigert is great as Calamity Jane and Ian McShane's Al Swearengen is a great villain. All in all I'd like to dig up some good books dealing with this period.

Funny that this thread should pop up at this time ! I've had COMPOSER since it came out, but hadn't listened to it for years until last Saturday. I heard Groove Passage on the car radio and really enjoyed it. I pulled the cd out as soon as I got home and I've listened and enjoyed it several times since. Nice playing by all concerned. Roy Hargrove sounds real nice in his Lee/Brownie bag and I'm more impressed by Vincent Herring every time I hear him.

I totally agree Nina. I recently obtained this cd and really enjoyed it. It's really got a lot going for it. Great singing, great sidemen and interesting, intense, well arranged and highly entertaining vocals.

I like pretty much all I've heard by Andy Bey. He has a great voice and uses it with a great deal of musical intelligence. I've heard a couple of things off his latest cd and thoroughly enjoyed them. Speak Low is a standout.

The last scene - with Carmela facing the empty room - Literal or symbolic? I'm betting symbolic. Any opinions?

He sure sounded a lot like Lester!

Downbeat just seems like one big advertisement. I've been reading it since the early 60s (maybe earlier) and I used to enjoy it, espescially when KD was doing record reviews and things of that ilk. I wasn't as aware of the business angles when I was kid, but maybe also it wasn't so blatant then. Now it's all to apparent.

I love the ODJB and pretty much agree with John L. regarding their place in Jazz history. I CAN stay with them through the course of a cd and enjoy every minute of it. BTW - I hear a bass drum audible here and there on those RCA 1917 sides, contrary to what I've read where a bass drum wasn't recorded until McKenzie and Condon's 1927 date with Gene Krupa.

Man ! There's a lot of good Hawk and this is another. Hawk is playing his butt off on this one. The sound ain't the greatest, but it's listenable and Hawk's playing makes up for any deficiencies. Kenny Clarke is here and swinging and MOODY pops up on quite a bit of the disc! There is a very swinging almost 8:00 minutelong THE MAN I LOVE on this

WORD !

I'm with jhoots on this one. I liked it enough to want to see where it goes. Besides - the Sunday 10:00 pm competition is totally LOUSEEE.

Yes it is. I see where the cd is 70 minutes! It must have stuff not on the lp....HMMMMMMM.

I'm wondering if Junior is going to get loopy and start saying things he shouldn't concerning the family business....necessitating his demise. It would be a (disputed) page out of mob history concerning Willie Moretti and the reason for his hit.

>>So what you think - does he make a move on Tony or not? << I DUNNO!?! He'd have to be totally nuts (but that's not out of the question). He doesn't have his own organization to the point needed for a move like that, and if he succeeded in getting Tony out of the way he'd have to deal with guys like Johnny Sack who'd have knowledge of his move on Tony....and figure if he made a move on Tony he'd move on them sooner or later... I think more likely he'll be a bigger and bigger pain in the ass and he'll have to go. If he hits Paulie (or anybody in Tony's crew) , Tony HAS to take him out.

Ahhh...Janice isn't THAT bad. She actually reminds me of people I know. I'm beginning to think the new characters are mainly there to be whacked - thereby leaving more of the original guys intact for the last season and hence a more dramatic finale - but who knows? I originally thought Paulie wouldn't survive the season, but now I'm beginning to think his value to the writers for comedy relief might gain him a reprieve. I still think Carmine Jr. is a goner. Johnny Sack can't wait to whack him. He's salivating at the thought. Feech (Robert Loggia) is a loose cannon - I think he's out by the end of the season. I'm hoping Phil Leotardo (Frank Vincent) makes it to next season - he's just incredibly on the money for these parts.

There was an feature article and interview with Steve Cropper in GUITAR PLAYER magazine some years ago where Cropper mentions Lowman Pauling's influence on him, and I think there may also have been an article on Pauling in that magazine at one point.

Enjoyed the show last night! Frankie Vincent quotes Louis Prima: "Next time there'll be no next time." I wonder if Frankie ad libbed that line. I know he knows the tune.

Been there - Done that.

It would be extremely unprofessional for a musician (even a guy bounced from a band) to try to screw up your gig. I've seen some bitter band disputes but causing a scene intentionally and screwing up a gig is something I've NEVER seen - I hope it doesn't happen, 'cause then I know things are at a total all time low in a business that's sunk low enough already.

I REALLY hit a brick wall in regards to beer...about 1996 I was diagnosed with a wheat intolorance. NO BEER! At the time my favorites were Beck's and Grolsch and I was probably knocking off 3 or 4 a night. I miss them.

If not Detroit, surely you could try Paterson, New Jersey. It's really just a hop, skip and jump to Newark!

Sorry to hear about it. Hank played good greasy organ stuff!