Harold_Z

Wet or dry, I think the mix will be cool. DEEP's got the ears.

Hey Jim...regarding disc 2-3, as I posted previously I have it. I bought it on vinyl when it came out and there is no personel given. Ive never seen the cd release and I'm wondering if they give a personel. I'd bet my socks that it's Chuck Rainey on bass - not Jamerson.

Nothing like a quickie to start the day !

>>"Bud Freeman, oh, my... I've never been influenced by Bud Freeman" - Young << I know Pres said that, but I've always found it hard to believe that there was no influence there. I think there had to be some influence and that Pres either didn't realize it himself or was being disingenous. Particularly that one note rhythmic thing common to both players. I'm editing this to say " hard to accept at face value" rather than "hard to believe".

Hey Phil...Happy Birthday !

....And no FILIBUSTERING !

Suggestion : Maybe the solutions shouldn't be revealed until a set time passes without a post on the discussion thread...say 24 hrs or 48 hrs - whatever. The "Disc Master" can have the answers ready at his convenience - announce the time limit - and then keep it on his "notepad" ready to go.

Yeah Lon...the Circle label stuff sounds great as does the Fats stuff Eke mentioned.

Yeah..a lot of them sound better than the corresponding commercial releases. I'm curious as to why that is? What were they doing different from the studios used by the record companies? And weren't they sometimes the same studios?

Mike...Is there a Fender Bass on the Moody Hip Organ Trio album?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY !

Emoclew drarba Selim !

I checked out the MEAT. I thought I had all the JB I needed. I mean I've got a ton of vinyl and a bunch of cd's. Most of it is pre 1970. But this thread has made me realize there are a few absolutely killer sides that I missed. (Followed by a vision of $$$ signs flying out the window). SANGREY - YOUR COSTING ME MONEY !!!!

ARM - It's not impossible that it's his band at a later date - but I have a feeling it's not. One reason - NO Eric Gale, who was an almost permanent fixture with that band from the mid 60s thru the early 70s, at least.

Yes ...with Chico. Did you gig around here ?

ARM - I think the one you're talking about is chronologically to early.

Well...I had a chance to listen to the first tune. I am absolutely postitively almost convinced that the tenor player might be either Frank Trambauer or Tim Berne.

I made the same mistake in my initial post. B)

It's Barbara George.

UH-HUH - and I know that you know that I know.

Helicon?

Brad Gowans, at some point later in his career, actually invented a combination instrument that could be played simoultaneously as a valve or slide trombone. How this worked is explained pretty well in Dick Sudhalter's LOST CHORDS, in the chapter on Brad. It was pretty ingenious and any of you guys that have Eddie Condon's Decca cd can hear it on FAREWELL BLUES. It's also on the corresponding CLASSICS cd.

WOW! This reminds me of back in the day when I was working music full time (no day slave to hassle me) and I'd be hangin' with the cats and somebody'd say "YOU GOTTA HEAR THIS!!" and put something on. Jim, your batting ONE THOUSAND! I dug EVERYTHING on here. As a matter of fact I'M GETTIN'HIGH LISTENING! I went thru both discs once so I may be back later on in this thread with more to say. These are my first impressions. Disc One: 1 - The out of tempo piano intro manages to be Monkish and Bixish at the same time (HEY! That's my take.) The tenor sounds great! 2 - Very exotic! Don't know who or what but I dig it!. I guess it's ALMOST GOOD! 3 - Don't know who. Thoroughly enjoyable up blues. 4 - BLUES GROOVE - Chart reminds me of Q. Trumpet of Clark Terry (but not him). 5 - JB. Gotta get this. I mean I dug JB's things like "Prisoner Of Love" and this is right there with it. The guy really COULD sing his F*****' ASS off. 6 - Nice. Gloria Lynne? 7 - Wild guess. Steve Lacy? I haven't heard that much by him -but maybe? 8 - SECRET LOVE by ...who? Don Patterson? I dig the Fender - the guy is swingin' and he's old school in so much as it sounds like flatwounds on a Fender. The tenor reminds me of Lockjaw but I'm not sure. 9 - CT. 10 - Know it - Love it. 11 - Know it - Love it. 12 - Fits right in with tr 11. Don't know who - I dig it. 13 - CONFIRMATION like changes. Lestorian tenor - Zoot? Really guessing but could this be Woody's band? 14 - ALMOST LIKE FALLING IN LOVE. Getz? 50s? 15 - FINE AND DANDY - Hamp and a STRONG pianist! DISC TWO: 1 - Outside then Inside (just to show you they can do it). Groovin' when the piano comes in and they (intentionally) speed up. 2 - Bone and alto in front. Don't know who. AGAIN - I like it. 3 - Know it - Love it. 4 - Bass player is beautiful. I'm assuming he's overdubbed. I'd like to get this. Really I have no idea who it is but I LOVE IT - the drummer's pocket is laid back JUST ENOUGH! 5 - AT THE JAZZ BAND BALL. Love it. I know the tune - it's a "dixieland warhorse" and I know it's Pee Wee, Bud and I think Buck and Marshall Brown (it's a valve bone). That line up would probably make it George Wein related. ...So my (educated) guess is it's some kind of Newport All Stars line up. 6 - Monkish head (but not Monk) 7 - Bebop head, but "out". 8 - Basie w. Lester. Don't know what. 9 - No idea who. Dug it. 10 - PERCY MAYFIELD???? IS THIS THE NEW RHINO ONE? Gotta get it. 11 - No Idea. It held my interest all the way through. Tenor Player dug his Jr Walker records. So that's it. Those are my first impressions. I really want to say again..NO DUDS HERE. This is all of high interest to me.

I did some gigs with Eddie Cacavelli some years back - it's been awhile. Good drummer. DEEP - Yeah..Tony Inzalaco was from Lodi or Garfield. A lot of the local cats know him - Louis and Lenny for sure. Johnny Dentz is another cat that those guys gigged with way back in the day.

DEEP and Chris..glad you guys are talking again and everybody's here and posting.