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I'm interested in discussing Miles' Prestige LPs before "The First Great Quintet." I often forget how many albums (nine!) Miles recorded before he hired Coltrane. (Of these nine albums, yes, one of them does have a track with Coltrane on it. And, yes, some of the albums originally appeared in 10-inch configurations.) • Of these first nine Prestige recordings, which do you return to the most? I've been listening closely to the Schildkraut (Blue Haze) session lately, and am impressed all over again with Mile's sound and tonal control. He also (I'm pretty sure) isn't using a Harmon mute. It sounds to me like a cardboard straight mute, which produces a beautiful sound—one Miles seems not to have returned to after this session. (Trumpet players, do correct me if I'm wrong!) • Who listens to And Horns? I like that album, but probably listen to it the least. I also need to listen to Quintet/Sextet more—I like the way that album was recorded. Discuss your favorites!

On the topic of Elvin, his debut album (for Riverside) seems overlooked. Besides being beautifully recorded, it has interesting compositions, Thad and Hank aboard, AND both Franks—Foster & Wess. I'm listening to an early Japanese edition as I type, and the stereo sound is amazing. Frank Foster isn't fully under the Coltrane spell, and Wess is impeccable on flute. And Elvin on brushes—the first nine seconds of the album...I've actually played on repeat more than once. Anyone listen to this album recently?

Just buy this one.

Boperation ...

Noooooo! Carpe diem --> Edith North Johnson.

So...now I'm thinking the two albums mentioned in the original post do indeed overlap. (Happy to be proved wrong otherwise though.) 1800¥ comes out to (today at least) $12.59. Not too bad. Yes, shipping is steep, but everything tends to get averaged out.

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Those, I believe, are distinct tracks. Correction! I just checked Discogs. I think they ARE the same track (same recording). Mr. Jones

Already discussed on this board, there's an upcoming archival release of Elvin Jones on Blue Note (Live At Pookie's). The Japanese market is also reissuing nine titles of Elvin Jones' Blue Note output (also discussed). The nine titles are: 1. Puttin' It Together 2. The Ultimate 3. Poly-Currents 4. Coalition 5. Genesis 6. Merry-Go-Round 7. Mr. Jones 8. At This Point In Time 9. The Prime Element (2 CD) My question is, if you purchase The Prime Element, are you also purchasing At This Point In Time, minus three tracks? (Information below from Discogs.) 1. At This Point In Time (7:32) 2. Currents/Pollen (11:12) 3. The Prime Element (8:16) 4. Whims of Bal (12:22) 5. Pauke Tanz (6:32) 6. The Unknighted Nations (6:25) 7. Don't Cry (7:41) 1. At This Point In Time (7:30) 2. Currents/Pollen (11:08) 3. The Prime Element (6:14) 4. Whims of Bal (12:22) 5. Inner Space (6:28) 6. Once I Loved (6:18) 7. Raynay (7:54) 8. Champagne Baby (10:20) 9. Dido Afrique (11:14) Do these two titles duplicate the first four tracks? If so, that's kinda odd. Not unexpected from the Japanese market (album integrity), but still—a little odd. It seems like The Prime Element could have squeezed the last three tracks from At This Point In Time onto a 2-disc set. There's probably enough room (I think). Pauke Tanz The Unknighted Nations Don't Cry

I didn't realize/know until today that Wayne Dockery's older brother was Sam Dockery, the pianist. Dig Wayne with Charles Tolliver in France, 1971:

“Yeah, some people didn’t even know that I was doing that [using both names]. Even to the days where I was doing Broadway and studio recordings and R&B shows [when I] came into New York and what have you. I was doing my avant-garde career simultaneously and people didn’t know that I was doing that. A couple of my peers would say ... Warren Smith, the percussionist, he came up and he said, ‘I keep hearing about this Abdul Wadud guy playing cello’–because I was using Ron DeVaughn during the classical stuff. He said, ‘Do you know this guy Abdul Wadud?’ I said, ‘Yeah, that’s me.’ He said, ‘Oh no man, that ain’t you.’ I said, ‘Yeah it is.’ It’s funny, I had a student when I was teaching and he said, ‘Can you teach me how to play like that Abdul Wadud?’ I said, ‘I am Abdul Wadud.’ He said, ‘No you’re not.’ I said, ‘Yes I am.’ I had to pull out these albums and what not to show him. He started laughing. He said, ‘Why are you teaching me classical style? I want to learn how to do the other stuff.’ I said, ‘Well, you can do both.’ — Abdul Wadud

Listening to that short musical excerpt on Instagram, it's clear how connected Hemphill and Wadud were. I hear their musical partnership on par with Ornette and Cherry's. Or John Carter and Bobby Bradford.

The first time I heard Wadud was on Julius Hemphill's Dogon A.D. I was around 25. That sound became permanently etched in my memory. If I remember correctly, there was a time, after leaving Oberlin, that Wadud took a fair number of classical gigs—and still went by Ron DeVaughn. Abdul Wadud for improvised music, but his birthname for the tux work.

Paquito sounds at times like a lost heir to Dolphy.

Thanks for posting. In Joe's dream group, he forgot to list a drummer! I've never really understood the connection critics make between Henderson and Getz. Their sound, to me, isn't similar—but I guess others hear it.

Dig Paquito guesting with McCoy in 1981. Paquito's solo begins at 12:43 into the video.

Dig Wadud as part of the Arthur Blythe Quartet in Berlin, 1980:

That is the Brignola CD I play the most. The Penguin Guide is also fond of it, if I recall correctly. Did Baritone Madness with Pepper Adams ever make it to CD?

And now, more than four years after this release was canceled, the "deluxe" edition, with 12 tracks over two discs, is scheduled for release again. Google Translate sez: "The only leader work that Coltrane recorded in 1957 and left on Blue Note, the eternal masterpiece "Blue Train". One of the most popular works in jazz history, but to commemorate the 65th anniversary of recording, the complete version "Blue Train: Complete Masters" which includes the latest remastered original album and 7 other takes. Release is decided. This is a historic excavation that this is the first time that 4 of the 7 other takes recorded have been recorded. The monaural version of the original album will also be released at the same time with the latest remastering. This release is part of Blue Note's recent reissue series, Tone Poet. Under the supervision of John Harley, a producer nicknamed "The Poet of Sound," virtuoso Kevin Gray carefully remastered from the original analog master. Coltrane was at the bottom of his life when Miles Davis Quintet was fired for heroin addiction in 1957. However, after a long-term co-starring with Thelonious Monk at Five Spot Cafe, he cut off heroin and began to perform passionately again. "Blue Train" is a rare work created by Coltrane who has achieved such a miracle revival, and it became an eternal masterpiece that remains in the history of jazz as well as an early masterpiece that he himself is deeply proud of. This excavation is likely to be a historic event that reveals the whole picture of such a masterpiece for the first time.

Raphe Malik died less than two years after he posted here (just once). He was 57. Listening to this Taylor album right now: I think Malik is excellent in this setting; of all the trumpet players who recorded with Taylor (though there weren't too many) I think Malik fit in the best. I've still never heard his own leader dates. His birthname was Laurence Mazel.

On vinyl and compact disc September 2nd:

Didn't know that—very interesting. Would be great to hear that.